Florida Building Commission
Education POC Meeting Minutes
Tallahassee, Florida
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Meeting information
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Date: Thursday, April 10th, 2014
Time: 10:00 am, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-05:00)
Meeting
Number: 641 505 040
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Education POC Meeting Objectives |
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Ø To
approve April 10, 2014 Meeting Agenda Ø To
approve February 13, 2014 Meeting Minutes Ø
To review/decide pending accreditor
applications Ø
To review/decide accredited advanced courses Ø
To review/decide administratively approved
updated courses Ø
To review/decide self affirmed updated courses Ø
To update status of the proposed language
changes to Rule 61G20-6.002, F.A.C. Ø
To review/discuss Education Administrator
activity report Ø
To identify future POC member discussion items Ø
To discuss general public comment Ø
To identify needed next steps, assignments,
and agenda items for next meeting |
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Education POC Meeting Minutes— April 10, 2014 |
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All Agenda Times—Including
Adjournment—Are Approximate and Subject to Change |
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10:00
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1.) |
Welcome and Opening, Roll Call POC Members Present: Nanette
Dean, (Chair), Kevin Flanagan, Jeffrey Stone PhD, Drew Smith, Darrell
Phillips POC Member(s) Absent:
Herminio Gonzalez, Brian Langille Meeting
Attendees Identified: Ila
Jones Jim Hammers Cam
Fentriss Jack Glenn Michael Clark April
Hammonds Sharon Mignardi Joe Belcher |
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2.) |
Review and approval of the April 10, 2014
meeting Agenda Motion: To approve
as submitted Motion: Jeffrey
Stone Second:
Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously |
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3.) |
Review and approval of February 13, 2014
meeting Minutes Motion: To
approve as submitted Motion: Jeffrey
Stone Second: Kevin
Flanagan Approved Unanimously |
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4.) |
Review pending accreditor
applications for recommendation to the Commission None Pending |
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5.) |
Review pending advanced accredited
courses for recommendation to the Commission Course: 2010 Advanced Florida Building Code,
Residential Walls: 1 Hour Internet Course Provider: @ Your Pace Online Accreditor: BCIC LLC BCIS Course Number: 642.0 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Jeffrey Stone Second: Darrell Phillips Discussion: Commissioner Stone stated that questions
2, 5, and 10, which are embedded in the training content, should be worded
more clearly. He further stated that he thought the course should be approved
and the rest of the ED POC members agreed. Sharon Mignardi, the accreditor
for the course, stated that she will make sure the provider receives this
information and makes the appropriate revisions. Approved Unanimously |
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6.) |
Review pending administratively
approved updated courses for recommendation to the Commission None Pending |
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7.) |
Review pending administratively
approved self affirmed updated courses for recommendation to the Commission Course: Advanced 2012 Florida Accessibility Code Provider: Donna Kirby, FASID Prior Accreditor: BCIC LLC BCIS Course Number: 316.1 Motion: Course conditionally approved
based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the
Florida Building Code related content, subject to revising the title in
the BCIS course description to match the title in both the course syllabus
and title slide of the PowerPoint presentation, or vice versa. Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Jeffrey Stone Discussion: The Education Administrator stated that
the course title in the BCIS course description did not match the
course title in the course syllabus or on the first slide of the PowerPoint
presentation. The title in the BCIS course description read, “ADV 2012
Florida Accessibility Code”, while the title in the syllabus and first slide
of the PowerPoint presentation read, “2012 Florida Accessibility Code for
Building Construction”. The ED POC members agreed. Approved Unanimously Course: 2010 Advanced Building Code Provider: Contractor’s Institute Prior Accreditor: JDB Code Services, Inc. BCIS Course Number: 499.0 Motion: Course approval deferred because
the 2007 code is referenced in the syllabus, the first slide of the
PowerPoint needs to be modified or deleted, slides 9,10,and 11 need to be
modified, and verbiage needs to be deleted from the method of presentation
part of the syllabus. Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Discussion: The Education Administrator stated that
several changes needed to be made to the course materials. First, the 2007
code is referenced in the header of the syllabus. The header should reference
the 2010 code. Second, the first slide of the PowerPoint presentation states
that the course would be narrated as an online course. This needs to be
deleted or modified because the course is instructor led. Third, on slides 9,
10, and 11 the word “Changed” is placed on the slide, but no changes are
referenced. The slides need a more clear explanation of what changed. Fourth,
in the “Method of Presentation” part of the syllabus, it is stated that audio
clips, video clips, and photographs would be used as part of the instruction.
After reviewing the materials, none of these methods of instruction were
found. So, this verbiage needs to be deleted. The Education Administrator
stated that the course provider was informed by e-mail of concerns and the
need to attend this meeting. The ED
POC members agreed that the changes needed to be made. Approved Unanimously Course: 2010 Advanced Building Code (Internet) Provider: Contractor’s Institute Prior Accreditor: JDB Code Services, Inc. BCIS Course Number: 500.0 Motion: Course conditionally approved
based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the
Florida Building Code related content, subject to deleting the verbiage
regarding “audio clips, video clips, and photographs” in the Method of
Presentation part of the syllabus and more clearly explaining what changed on
slides 10,11, and 12. Motion: Jeffrey Stone Second: Darrell Phillips In favor: Nan Dean, Darrell Phillips, Drew Smith,
Jeffrey Stone Opposed: Kevin Flanagan Discussion: The Education Administrator stated that on
slides 10, 11, and 12 the word “Changed” is placed prominently on the right
side of the slide, but no changes are referenced. The slides need a more
clear explanation of what changed. He also stated that in the “Method of
Presentation” part of the syllabus, it is stated that audio clips, video
clips, and photographs would be used as part of the instruction. After
reviewing the materials, none of those methods of instruction were found. So,
this verbiage needed to be deleted. Initially, a motion was made to defer approval of this course. The
roll call vote was Kevin Flanagan, Darrell Phillips, and Drew Smith for
deferral, and Nan Dean, Jeffrey Stone opposed to deferral. This 3-2 vote did
not meet the 75% threshold for approval so a new motion was made for a
conditional approval. Those results are listed in the above motion
information, and the course was conditionally approved. Approved |
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8.) |
Update status of the proposed language changes to Rule 61G20-6.002,
F.A.C The General Counsel, April Hammonds, stated that as a result of
comments and recommendations made by Med Kopczynski, another revision was
made to rule 61G20-6.002, F.A.C.. Specifically, the words “law or
administrative rule” were inserted a total of five times next to the words
“code,” “building code,” or “code edition.” She asked if there were any
questions and stated that those five additions were the only changes made.
She further stated that even though these are technical changes that staff
has been authorized by the POC to make, she wanted to give the ED POC the
opportunity to make a motion to accept those changes. There were no questions or comments by the
ED POC members, and they did make the motion for approval of the revised
language. Motion: To
approve the revised language to 61G20-6.002, F.A.C., as discussed and
submitted to the Education POC Motion: Jeffrey
Stone Second:
Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously |
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9.) |
Education Administrator activity
report Discussion: The Chair asked Cam Fentriss to provide this report. Cam stated that there
were 5 inquiries that were handled. She also stated that some revised
statutory language related to the Building Code Training Program was enclosed
in the report and would be reviewed by the legislature. She asked if there
were any questions about the revised language. No questions were forthcoming. A.
Provided administrative support for FBC Education POC for February 13, 2014
meeting B.
Drafted minutes for FBC Education POC February 13, 2014 meeting C.
Prepared agenda for FBC Education POC meeting on April 10, 2014 meeting D.
Inquiries from the public February 10, 2014 to March 28, 2014 as follows: 5
inquiries: 4 telephone; 1 e-mail Category
of inquirers: 3 Consumer 2 Florida licensed contractor (out
of state) Types of
Inquiries: 2
Advanced codes course availability 1 Code
requirement for renovation 2 Code
requirement for windows E.
Changes are proposed in legislation (HB 593 / SB 1106) to section 553.841,
Florida Statutes, as follows (subject to change): 553.841
Building code compliance and mitigation program.— (1) The
Legislature finds that knowledge and understanding by persons licensed or
employed in the design and construction industries of the importance and
need for complying with the Florida Building Code and related laws is
vital to the public health, safety, and welfare of this state, especially for
protecting consumers and mitigating damage caused by hurricanes to
residents and visitors to the state. The Legislature further finds that the
Florida Building Code can be effective only if all participants in the design
and construction industries maintain a thorough knowledge of the code, code
compliance and enforcement, duties related to consumers, and changes
that (2) The
Department of Business and Professional Regulation shall administer a
program, designated as the Florida Building Code Compliance and Mitigation
Program, to develop, coordinate, and maintain education and outreach to
persons required to comply with the Florida Building Code and related
provisions as specified in subsection (1) and ensure consistent
education, training, and communication of the code's requirements, including,
but not limited to, methods for design and construction compliance and
mitigation of storm-related damage. The program shall also operate a
clearinghouse through which design, construction, and building code
enforcement licensees, suppliers, and consumers in this state may find others
in order to exchange information relating to mitigation and facilitate
repairs in the aftermath of a natural disaster. |
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10.) |
Identify future POC member
discussion items No future discussion items were given. |
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11.) |
General public comment Jack Glenn asked what the effective date would be for the new rule
language for rule 61G20-6.002, F.A.C.
April Hammonds stated that the date will be determined after the
“Notice for Proposed Rule” is posted because someone can request a hearing on
the rule within 21 days of posting. Then there is a 45 day waiting period
until the actual hearing. So the effective date is dependent on what happens
after the “notice” is posted. |
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12.) |
Summary and review of meeting work products
and adoption of recommendations for submittal to the commission Recommended
Commission Actions
The Education POC considered and recommends the following: The following new course is recommended for
APPROVAL: Course: 2010 Advanced Florida Building Code,
Residential Walls: 1 Hour Internet Course Provider: @ Your Pace Online Accreditor: BCIC LLC BCIS Course Number: 642.0 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Jeffrey Stone Second: Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously The following administratively approved
self-affirmed courses are recommended for APPROVAL: Course: Advanced 2012 Florida Accessibility Code Provider: Donna Kirby, FASID Prior Accreditor: BCIC LLC BCIS Course Number: 316.1 Motion: Course conditionally approved
based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the
Florida Building Code related content, subject to revising the title in
the BCIS course description to match the title in both the course syllabus
and title slide of the PowerPoint presentation, or vice versa. Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Jeffrey Stone Approved Unanimously Course: 2010 Advanced Building Code Provider: Contractor’s Institute Prior Accreditor: JDB Code Services, Inc. BCIS Course Number: 499.0 Motion: Motion: Course approval deferred because
the 2007 code is referenced in the syllabus, the first slide of the
PowerPoint needs to be modified or deleted, slides 9,10,and 11 need to be
modified, and verbiage needs to be deleted from the method of presentation
part of the syllabus. Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously Course: 2010 Advanced Building Code (Internet) Provider: Contractor’s Institute Prior Accreditor: JDB Code Services, Inc. BCIS Course Number: 500.0 Motion: Course conditionally approved
based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the
Florida Building Code related content, subject to deleting the verbiage
regarding “audio clips, video clips, and photographs” in the Method of
Presentation part of the syllabus and more clearly explaining what changed on
slides 10,11, and 12. Motion: Jeffrey Stone Second: Darrell Phillips In Favor: Nan Dean, Darrell Phillips, Drew Smith,
Jeffrey Stone Opposed: Kevin Flanagan Approved Other Motion: Motion: To
approve the revised language to 61G20-6.002, F.A.C., as discussed and
submitted to the Education POC Motion: Jeffrey
Stone Second:
Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously |
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Adjourn Adjourn (Adjourned at 10:25 am.) Motion: To adjourn Motion: Jeffrey Stone Second: Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously |
Staff
Contact: Michael Clark (Building A Safer Florida, Inc.);
mrcconsulting@earthlink.net; 850.545.1451
Committee Membership
and Meeting Schedule
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Nanette Dean_Manufactured Buildings, Chair |
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Education POC Membership |
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Member |
Representation |
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Nanette Dean |
Manufactured Buildings, Chair |
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Kevin Flanagan |
Electrical Contractor |
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Herminio Gonzalez |
Code Official |
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Drew Smith |
Green Building Industry |
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Jeffrey Stone PhD |
Building Product Manufacturer |
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Darrell Phillips |
Public Education |
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Brian Langille |
Natural Gas Distributor |
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Staff |
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April Hammonds |
Legal Advisor |
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Jim Hammers |
Technical Support |
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Cam Fentriss |
Administrative (Building A Safer Florida, Inc.) |
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Facilitator |
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Michael Clark |
(Building A Safer Florida, Inc.) |
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2014 POC Meeting Schedule |
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I. |
February 13, 2014 (10:00 AM EST) |
Tallahassee and via teleconference |
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II. |
April 10, 2014 (10:00 AM EST) |
Tallahassee and via teleconference |
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III. |
June 12, 2014 (10:00 AM EST) |
Tallahassee and via teleconference |
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IV. |
August 14, 2014 (10:00 AM EST) |
Tallahassee and via teleconference |
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V. |
October 9, 2014 (10:00 AM EST) |
Tallahassee and via teleconference |
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VI. |
December 4, 2014 (10:00 AM EST) |
Tallahassee and via teleconference |
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2014 Course Application Deadline
Schedule |
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Meeting Date |
Application
Submittal Deadline |
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I. |
February 13, 2014 Meeting |
January 29, 2014 |
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II. |
April 10, 2014 Meeting |
March 25, 2014 |
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III. |
June 12, 2014 Meeting |
May 28, 2014 |
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IV. |
August 14, 2014 Meeting |
July 30, 2014 |
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V. |
October 9, 2014 Meeting |
September 24, 2014 |
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VI. |
December 4, 2014 Meeting |
November 19, 2014 |
Note: This document is available in alternate formats upon request to the Department of Business and professional regulation, codes and standards, Room 90, 1940 North Monroe St., Tallahassee, Fl, 850.717.1838.