Florida Building
Commission
Building (Fire) Technical Advisory Committee
(meeting jointly with the Code Administration TAC
on tasks 2, 4 and 5)
Meeting Minutes
Meeting Location: Teleconference Meeting from Tallahassee,
Florida
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TAC/POC Members
and Objectives |
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TAC Members Present Via
Teleconference: Hamid Bahadori, Peter
T. Schwab, Joe Belcher, Brad Schiffer, Tony Apfelbeck, James Schock, Dale
Greiner, Charlie Frank, Joe Holland TAC Members not Present: Jonathon D. (Jon) Hamrick Staff Present: Mo
Madani, Jim Richmond, April Hammonds, Marlita Peters Facilitator: Kenneth
Cureton |
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Objectives: Discuss and recommend potential research topics, Rule Development Workshop comments, Consideration of Declaratory Statements DS 2013-031and DS 2013-048. |
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Meeting
Minutes |
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Objective |
Discussion of
objectives included the following: |
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1) |
10:30 AM Welcome and Opening, Roll Call. A
quorum was present. Mr. Ken Cureton, facilitator for the
Florida Building Commission, provided a brief overview of how the agenda
items will be presented. The Meeting Minutes for the 6/13/13 Fire TAC meeting
and the Agenda for the 8/1/13 Fire TAC were approved unanimously by the
committee members. |
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2) |
Research Topics - TAC Action and Comments – Tony
Apfelbeck recommend a potential research topic for consideration by
the Commission regarding Draftstopping Performance within Type V combustible
concealed attic spaces. Topic was voted unanimous in favor of recommendation
to the Commission. (Full text of recommendation is provided as an attachment
to these minutes). |
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3) |
Comments Related to the 2013 FBC Update – Comment Items F-1 through F-5 were withdrawn
by Mo Madani. |
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TAC Action and Comments –Mod
2013-031 - Motion recommended by Belcher to support the previous Code Admin TAC
recommendations provided during their June 13, 2013 meeting for both
questions 1 and 2 as follows: Question 1a: By adding these elements (sinks, electrical
outlets, etc.) does that mean that the status of the exemption used to
construct the Chickee without a building permit is null and void? The answer is YES, adding the elements (sinks, electrical
outlets, etc.) to the “Chickee” in question would mean that the
“Chickee” as a structure is no longer
in compliance with the literal requirements of section 102.2(h) of the 2010
FBC, Building and therefore would be no longer exempted from compliance of the FBC. To Question 1b: If the answer to question “a” is yes, does
that mean that the Chickee structure must get a building permit and comply
with the current building codes? The answer is YES, the “chickee” in question would be required
to demonstrate compliance with the current FBC as applicable. To Question 2: Does the fact of whether the utility
services; electric; plumbing; propane or natural gas appliances are attached
or not attached to any part of the structure/Chickee change the
interpretation of Question 1? The answer is NO, the definition of the term “chickee” does
not differentiate or provide for allowance to whether the utility services,
(electric, plumbing, propane or natural gas appliances) are attached or not
attached to any part of the structure/chickee. Vote
resulted 7 in favor of Staff recommendations, 2 opposed. |
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TAC
Action and Comments –Mod 2013-048 - Motion recommended by
Belcher to dismiss Mod 048 due to issues being outside of the scope of
Declaratory Statement process for both questions 1 and 2. Voted unanimously
to dismiss. |
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Other |
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Adjourn: 12:30 PM |
Staff
Contacts: Kenneth H.
Cureton, Planning Analyst ken.cureton@dbpr.state.fl.us (850) 717-1828 or Mo Madani, Manager mo.madani@dbpr.state.fl.us (850) 717-1825