Issue: Corrosion of fasteners used to secure metal ridge vent system on shingle and tile roofs
Concerns raised by
the attached letter:
- Severe corrosion was fairly consistent, specifically with the use of electro-galvanized fasteners.
- Similar corrosion problems in fasteners used to secure the new metal ridge backing accessories being utilized with concrete and terra cotta roof tile systems.
- Significantly more serious in coastal environment due to presence of chloride ions.
- Increase in manufacturing of these products outside the United State,
2010 Florida Building
Code:
Non-HVHZ
1506.4 Product identification.
Roof-covering materials shall be delivered in packages bearing the manufacturer’s identifying marks and approved testing agency labels required in accordance with Section 1505. Bulk shipments of materials shall be accompanied with the same information issued in the form of a certificate or on a bill of lading by the manufacturer.
1506.5 Nails.
Nails shall be corrosion resistant nails conforming to ASTM F 1667. The corrosion resistance shall meet ASTM A 641, Class 1 or an equal corrosion resistance by coating, electro galvanization, mechanical galvanization, hot dipped galvanization, stainless steel, nonferrous metal and alloys or other suitable corrosion resistant material.
1506.6 Screws.
Wood screws conform to ANSI/ASME B 18.6.1. Screws shall be corrosion resistant by coating, galvanization, stainless steel, nonferrous metal or other suitable corrosion resistant material. The corrosion resistance shall be demonstrated through one of the following methods:
1. Corrosion resistance equivalent to ASTM A 641, Class 1;
2. Corrosion resistance in accordance with TAS114, Appendix E; or
3. Corrosion resistant coating exhibiting not more than 5 percent red rust after 1000 hours exposure in accordance with ASTM B 117.
1506.7 Clips.
Clips shall be corrosion resistant clips. The corrosion resistance shall meet 0.90 ounce per square foot (0.458 kg/m2) measured according to ASTM A 90/A 90M, TAS 114 Appendix E or an equal corrosion resistance coating, electro galvanization, mechanical galvanization, hot dipped galvanization, stainless steel, nonferrous metals and alloys or other suitable corrosion resistant material. Stainless steel clips shall conform to ASTM A167, Type 304.
HVHZ
1517.5 Fasteners.
1517.5.1
Nails shall be
minimum 12 gage, annular ring shank nails having not less than 20 rings per
inch, heads not less than 3/8 inch (9.5 mm) in diameter; and lengths sufficient
to penetrate through the thickness of plywood panel or wood plank decking not
less than 3/16 inch (4.8 mm), or to penetrate into a 1 inch (25 mm) or greater
thickness of lumber not less than 1 inch. Nails or wood screws shall be hot
dipped electro or mechanically galvanized to a thickness sufficient to resist
corrosion in compliance with TAS 114, Appendix E, Section
2 (ASTM G 85). All nails shall be listed by a certification agency. All nail
cartons or carton labels shall be labeled to note compliance with the corrosion
resistance requirements. No roofing material shall be fully or partially
adhered directly to a nailable deck, unless otherwise noted in the roof
assembly Product Approval.
1517.5.2
Such fasteners shall
be applied through “Tin caps” no less than 15/8 inches (41 mm) and not more
than 2 inches (51 mm) in diameter and of not less than 32 gage (0.010 inch)
sheet metal. “Cap nails” or prefabricated fasteners with integral heads
complying with this section shall be an acceptable substitute. All “tin caps,”
“cap nails” or prefabricated fasteners with integral heads shall be tested for
corrosion resistance in compliance with TAS 114, Appendix E, Section 2 (ASTM G
85), and shall be product control listed. All of cartons or carton labels “tin
caps,” “cap nails” or prefabricated fasteners with integral heads shall be
labeled to note compliance with the corrosion resistance requirements.
ECTION 1523 HIGH-VELOCITY
HURRICANE ZONES— TESTING
1523.6.5.2.10 Roofing
nails and tin-caps.
All roofing nails and
tin-caps shall be tested for corrosion resistance in compliance with TAS 114,
Appendix E, Section 2 (ASTM G 85).
1523.6.5.2.11 Roof
tile nails or fasteners.
All roof tile nails
or fasteners, except those made of copper, monel, aluminum or stainless steel, shall be tested
for corrosion in compliance with TAS 114, Appendix E, Section 2 (ASTM G 85),
for salt spray for 1000 hr.
1523.6.5.2.11.1
Tile fasteners used
in coastal building zones, as defined in Chapter 16 (High-Velocity Hurricane
Zone), shall be copper, monel, aluminum or stainless
steel.
TESTING APPLICATION
STANDARD (TAS) No. 114-11 TEST PROCEDURES FOR ROOF SYSTEM ASSEMBLIES IN THE
HIGH-VELOCITY HURRICANE ZONE JURISDICTION
8.4 Corrosion Resistance:
8.4.1 Nails and carbon steel fasteners:
8.4.1.1 All nails and carbon steel fasteners shall be tested for corrosion resistance in compliance with ASTM Standard Practice G 85 [(Modified Salt Spray (Fog) Testing)], Annex A5 (Dolute Electrolyte Cyclic Fog/Dry Testing) as modified for the highvelocity hurricane zone and noted in Section 2 of Appendix E, herein.
8.4.2 Batten bars, stress distribution plates and fasteners (other than nails):
8.4.2.1 All batten bars, stress distribution plates, and metal fasteners (other than nails) shall be tested for corrosion resistance in compliance with DIN 50018 as noted in Section 3 of Appendix E, herein.
8.4.2.2 Each specimen shall be exposed to air saturated with water vapor (104°F, 40°C) containing a mild concentration of sulfur dioxide for 8 hours, followed by a drying period of 16 hours at room temperature. After each drying cycle, the specimen shall be inspected and signs of corrosion or rust shall be recorded.
8.4.2.3 The 24-hour cycle shall be repeated 15 times and the corrosion percentage shall be recorded.
8.4.2.4 To evaluate the corrosion increase after Cycle 1 through Cycle 15, the specimen shall be mounted to blue painted sheet backdrop.
State Product
Approval:
Currently, there are 17 ridge vents products approved under the State Product Approval Program.
Method of compliance – Certification
Attachment:
Ridge vent:
Product/Roofing nails; Dimensions/min. 12 ga; Test specification/TAS 114 Appendix E; Product description/Corrosion resistant annular ring shank nails; Manufacturer/generic.
Ridge shingle: Using nail lines provided on top of vent. Install the cap shingles directly to the vent in the normal manner, using roofing nails of sufficient length to penetrate the sheathing a minimum of 3/16” or at least 1” into wood plank decking thicker than 1”.
Align end of first section on the end marks and the bottom
of the nailing flange on the chalk line (4" down on both sides of the
ridge peak for VUR vent; 5¼" down on both sides of the ridge peak for LPR
vent). Nail the VUR & LPR Ridgevent in place
using 11 gauge 2" galvanized smooth shank roofing nails through the
factory formed holes, with the first nail 1½" to 2" form the vent
end. All nail heads and vent section joints shall be sealed with 100% silicone
sealant
Install Hurricane straps over
each end of ridge vent, all connections between sections and at 3 feet
intervals over the reminder of the vent using four 1 ½ “ galvanized ring
shank-roofing nails per strap.
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Nail – Length = 2. 5”; Diameter = 0.125”; TAS 114 Appendix E; Corrosion resistance nail for use with vent.
Fasten the ridge shingles over the vent to the deck on the marked “shingle nail line” with (2) nails. Outside of the shingles are to be sealed with flashing cement.
Installation: vents should be evenly spaced on the rear slope of the roof.
Center vent in opening and set it in a 1/8” thick of asphalt roofing cement. Secure vent to the roof deck with 1-1/4” galvanized ring shank roofing nails spaced approx. 8” o.c. and 1” from the outside edge of the flange. Use a minimum of 18 nails per vent. Seal all nails and vent flange with an approved ASTM D 4586 roofing cement.
Evaluation report
– From an engineer
Fastener:
Ridge vent to Deck – Type: annular ring shank roofing nails.
Size – 11 ga. x 1-1/4”.
Corrosion resistance- per FBC Section 1506.5.
Standard: Per ASTM F 1667.
Ridge vent: use nail at least 1 ¾” or larger. Nails must always penetrate through plywood decks at least ¾” into wood planks.
Shingles:
Fasten each piece with two corrosion resistant, minimum 0.118-inch
shank-diameter, minimum 1¾-inch long, deformed shank nails with minimum
3/8-inch head diameter. Nail through the reinforced exposed plastic cross
hatched nail zone at the rear of each piece. For increased wind resistance, add
two nails, 1-inch further in from the first nail. For a total
of four nails per piece. In addition to these nails, the leading edge of
the first piece may be face nailed as well. Ensure nails penetrate through the
plastic backer and into the deck below.
Exposed nail heads must be properly sealed with roofing cement or
silicone sealant. NOTE: The use of excess roofing cement can cause blistering
of the asphalt shingle.
_____________________________________________________________________________________Notes
from the May 31, 2013 Roofing TAC Meeting
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In
high salt environments even connectors don’t last, if they’re hot dipped
zinc-galvanized don’t last, but maybe five to six years in the high salt
environments.
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it
seems to me that this is a product control issue that Product Approval, the
POC, should be looking at to make sure that the fasteners that are supplied
with the products are in fact meet the standards that they tested to for their
product approval.
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The
test standards on the Miami-Dade product approval say it’s to meet TAS 114 and
generic. So, I’m certain that this
product is manufactured for…..and I would assume that maybe the fasteners that
come in the package aren’t really the fasteners that are supposed to meet the
standards for the state of Florida and the salt water testing and
everything. But maybe that’s an issue
that needs to be addressed through Product Approval, that if you’re
distributing this product in our state you have to meet the fastener approval
that’s there.
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With
respect to galvanizing, TAS 114 gives a number of different allowances. Galvanizing is under Appendix D-E and that is
the least restrictive of any of the galvanizing techniques and A-3, test would certainly be a better test.
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Do
the nails always come in the package with the vent or are they supplied as a
separate item by the installer?
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The
Notice of Acceptance in question has limits of use in requiring that the nails
used are compliant with the TAS 114 corrosion testing. For that we do have a separate listing of
nails and different types of fasteners that are compliant with that standard so
that could be selected off of that list.
If the nails or fasteners are supplied with the louver or with the vents
it would need to be indicative of being compliant with that standard or the
roofer could use nails or fasteners off of any of the distributors that are listed
on that separate listing.
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Regarding
the corrosion issue, we here in Miami-Dade County have not experienced this
type of problem with the corrosion because of these checks and balances that
have been put in place. I don’t know all
of the details, and I’ve tried to look at the minutes of what was uploaded on
the website but it’s not clear to me as to how different nails or if even it
was those nails that got down to those jobs there in the non-high velocity
areas.
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In May 18, of
2011, Eric Smith, a local roofing contractor brought this issue to the Building
Code Advisory Board and the issue that he brought up was,
he had observed that on his jobs that nails were
failing on these ridge vents after a few years of exposure to our
environment. And he brought it as a, you
know, kind of a, just an awareness thing.
He had gone back on his own and replaced several that he himself had
installed in an attempt to provide a quality product. I think in the end nobody thought that this
product was at fault or the approval agency was at fault. The corrosion nails are, resistant nails, are supplied with the vent. What happens, it appears to be an inherent
failure that comes up after the product has been used for a while and time
reveals possibly a design flaw that would not have been seen upfront. And that would be
where the nails are installed and they’re installed properly, but
the corrosion resistant coating, the galvanization
gets scraped going through during the installation process. This
happens anytime you use a nail like that, but normally it’s imbedded and is not
going to be exposed to the environment.
With the ridge vents, the way these are installed, there’s portions of a nail that are exposed to the
environment and then once that galvanized coating gets scratched it
opens the nail up to getting corroded.
So I think that was the point being brought up was this is happening;
how do we move forward with correcting that, not pointing blame backwards, but
how do we go forward to make sure this is a quality product.
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One of the other
problems that I observed when we were talking about the coastal environment,
Wellington is way west of the coastal environment
and we were seeing a lot of problems out there, not only with the
ridge vents, but there were several roofs, shingle roofs, that had nail heads
that were completely rusted away on a roof that was probably about 7 or 8 years
old and the roof pitch was 4 ½ /12 and I believe the other one was around a
5/12.
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I wanted to try
to give you some background on our process here and what may be going
forward. First, I would agree with Mr.
Byrne that we also have seen lots of issues with corrosion of fasteners, not only in coastal areas of Florida but also
inland areas, far inland, some of which are only
four years old where the nails have corroded off. So, it’s not totally the nails that are used
with the ridge vents although, I do agree with the gentlemen that spoke
previously to Mr. Byrne that there is potential for
the electro-galvanic plating to come off or be scraped off as the
nails are being driven through the ridge vents and those nails are much more
exposed than the nails in shingles.
There is a wide-spread problem with the corrosion of fasteners. So that’s kind of a historical note. As far as the
fasteners that we ship with our products our standard practice is to not ship the ridge vent products with
the nails into the Florida market. But
on occasion that does happen.
If somebody orders a half truck of one product and a half truck of
another product, and a lot of times that product – the ridge roll vent that we
are discussing here – is shipped into Florida with nails. That’s not our intent but it does
happen. That being said, I’ve looked
into the supplier of the nails and the standards, codes and standards criteria
of the nails. Those nails are listed and labeled that they do meet the criteria of ASTM
A-641. So if I’m reading TAS 114
correctly, that is an alternate path of compliance for your
resistance of nails and they are labeled as such in the original box. When we ship them with our roll vents they
are not packaged in a box. They are in a
collated coil and put into the center of the roll. But I have been assured by the manufacturer
of the nails that they are tested to that standard.
I checked into our claims that have been filed for
this issue and we don’t have any claims on record in our warranty data base
that indicates that anyone has come back to us and said ‘hey, we are having
issues with the fasteners that are being shipped with your product can you have
somebody come down and look at this.’
So, without the benefit of actually having seen any of these jobs, it
would be very difficult for me to say, or for anyone to say really, what the
core cause of the corrosion is, whether it’s faulty cleaning or whether it’s
faulty installation.
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The reason I
participated in the call is we, as a corporation, are very interested in what
happens in Florida in regards to fasteners that are exposed. The bulk of our fastener business in Florida
is with roofers and we see a wide range of products being used in environments,
not necessarily coastal, but inland and coastal. It’s important to note that there is a huge
difference with ferrous metal fasteners when we’re just talking about plating
versus coating. By its nature, ferrous
metal fasteners, sacrificial to whatever it’s penetrating, whether that’s galv-alum or galvanized steel or aluminum which is not
good, but what we typically do with our fasteners, our threaded fasteners, is a
try-seal coating which meets a 1000 hour salt spray test. What we have found in terms of price and
performance, which is important to all these guys, it seems to be the best
marriage, if you will.
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I’ve been listening to a lot of the
conversation. I’ve actually been in the
fastener industry for over 30 years, everywhere from the manufacturing arm to
the distribution arm. And I’ve realized
that there are some issues with product control. I think a lot of it has to do with – an issue
has to do with the manufacturing of the product through the distribution
arm. Of course, the manufacturer is
responsible to provide, consistently provide the product that the distribution
arms are purchasing. But at the same
time, the distribution arm should be responsible to have a consistent quality
control when these products come from the manufacturer to their distribution
facilities. A lot of it, I believe is,
there is not a clear understanding of different types of coatings that are
being put, especially on these roofing nails that are out in the market. Many electro-galvanized type nails have to
have a minimum coating, I believe in microns, of between 8 and 12 microns,
consistently on these roofing nails to consistently meet the TAS 114, Appendix
E, G85 test. My curiosity is, with that
test, how many years does this test represent?
That’s question #1.
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And #2, I truly
don’t believe that are being placed in these boxes, are truly what they should
be. And I think that enforcement of the
Code needs to be strict, more strict, on the random
control testing. And I believe that it
has to be educated better on exactly how these coatings or these sacrificial
coatings are being used. What are they
and how do they react?
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First of all, G85
does not give you a period of time. It
is an agreement between a manufacturer and the guys running the G85 test. However, TAS 114.11 is, taking your choice on
nails, is 80 cycles, two hours each, so you talking about 90 hours of actual in the box exposure or 3.75 days. Where the … cabinet test is about 1000 hours. A hell of a lot of difference between a 90
hour test and that’s why in my opinion, Appendix E is not sufficient. When you talk about stainless, I have yet to
see a 316 stainless corrode like that. I
have seen 400 series corrode and I’ve seen a lot of mix up between 300 and 400
series.
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How
long are those fasteners to be exposed to elements and we have no idea what
other elements were around those specific sites that may have caused those
fasteners to corrode, but if we’re having exposed fasteners in a product, then
what is that time-frame that meets a product approval.
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As
part of the requirement for nails, it would be the Code required or prescribed
hours of exposure. And currently, for
this type of an application it requires 280 hours under that TAS 114, Appendix
E test. Correlation or what that would
equate to life of the product is very dependent on location of where it is
installed.
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So, with that
given fact, and the statements that were made today of the time frame that this
has happened, may I ask what the objective is?
I mean, if an exposed fastener lasted 5 to 7 years, and it was
electro-galvanized and not knowing the elements, obviously it is the assumption
that it met product approval and was installed properly, so what is our objective
of what was brought before the Committee today, with the fact that everything
was met from a Code standard?
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Unfortunately,
we’re listening, although truthful, we’re listening to anecdotal issues and I’m
not so sure this TAC can really change the Code based on just some anecdotal
issues and we need to probably gather a little more information in order to
suggest a change in the Code.
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Not being a big
shingle guy, and just sitting back listening to the conversation, I’m wondering
if we’re in a situation where, with this particular ridge vent with these
particular fasteners, if we have fasteners that are exposed to the elements
versus concealed fasteners, i.e. 280 cycle or 280 hour tested fasteners that
are typically concealed, versus a fastener where it’s being utilized with this
particular product where it is being exposed to the elements? At which point I would make the analogy over
to a roof tile fastener in a high velocity hurricane zone that then has to meet
the 1000 hour salt spray. I wonder if
Miami-Dade knew if this fastener was going to be exposed to the elements versus
being concealed, as is with the other mechanical fasteners. I’m just wondering if this fastener should be
1000 hour salt spray versus a 280 cycle.
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What would be the
next higher quality fastener that could be used? I’m assuming that it would be stainless steel
and if a stainless steel nail was used, would that limit the corrosion
failure?
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Yes, ah, looking
at the, ah, NOA and the installation instructions, I really don’t see where
these types of fasteners are exposed.
They should be covered by shingles.
And, ah, are we, I want to make sure that we’re going by the
installation instructions and they’re being installed correctly, first, because
I think your problem will arise if you have those fasteners exposed.
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I can address
that. They would be exposed through the
cross section of the vent. The vent is
porous in the horizontal direction, and so the shank of that nail would be
exposed by virtue of the porous nature of that vent.
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The product
approval that we’re looking at on page 3 of 4, if you read through the
installation guidelines, the only use for the nails that are associated with
this product approval are the fasteners that you use to set the ridge vents in
place. And that’s it. It just holds it in place until you start
putting the ridge cap pieces, the asphalt shingle ridge cap pieces on, and it
just says, it tells you to use roofing nails that are going to penetrate
through the wood deck at least a half inch.
So it’s not a product approval issue.
The fasteners that they’re talking about are fasteners that are outside
the scope of this particular product approval.
I mean if the manufacturers of the ridge vent give you the fasteners for
that product, for that product and the installation of those shingles, and how
are they going to know what depth that’s going to be, depending on the deck
size and all that. So, I don’t know that
there’s too many that have that. They
may have it and I don’t know. But that
would be a, in this particular case, that’s really not an issue.