Staff Review/Comments of Energy Compliance Software
REM/Rate v15. 9/23/14
We detailed
below issues we feel
need to be addressed before this program is sufficient to receive
approval for use in determining compliance with
the
Florida Building Code
1. There is a glitch that was encountered with REM Rate that was installed on one of our machines.
It will
not allow you to start a new project with all
data fields blank. When you try to start a new
project it keeps or loads the project you last
saved in REM Rate. We were not able to find
out
how to
stop
this and
had
to manually blank out the fields – Default Building mistake on
their part! I think the user had set the default building. This means that for every new building
file created, the screens are filled out. The user can delete the default building
and it will start with
no
fields entered.
This is under the File menu.
No
change made here
Staff
Response: Acceptable
2. The REM Rate program as it is currently setup is a global function
by
which the interface
provides users with comprehensive screens.
Some of these screens are not related to
code compliance.
It is advisable that the program be re-configured so that users are given
the option to select the Florida code compliance option as a starting point, independent from the other
areas. We will have something like this in our web tool,
but
not the desktop.
Right now REM/Rate is used nationally and
to avoid
requiring users of Florida to have two
installations of
REM/Rate – we want to have Florida in the standard version. No change made here.
Staff
Response: Staff affirms their comment. This should be incorporated into the program
that is under application for review.
3. Energy Rating
information should not be part of the code compliance program or subject areas.
We will have something like this in our web tool,
but
not the desktop. Right now REM/Rate is used nationally and
to avoid requiring
users of Florida to have two installations of REM/Rate –
we
want to have Florida in the standard version.
No change made here.
Staff
Response: Staff affirms their comment. The program up for approval should reflect
these changes.
4. Utility defaults not clear. What is significance for different types of fuel? Do these calculations have any influence on whether a project will pass Florida Code compliance? Not sure what this
means exactly. No
change made here.
Staff
Response: Acceptable.
5. If a project is started with
building
input mode set to Detailed
and
then switches to Simplified
will any inputted data be lost? Will it have any effect on
entered information? Yes, data will
be lost and some things may be altered. Current users of REM/Rate understand this and we
explain
this in our help system as well
as with a warning
before it happens. No changes made
here.
Staff
Response: Staff recommends that the simplified method needs to be
disallowed. This is not conductive to
code compliance.
6. Currently the Volume of conditioned
space must be entered manually.
It would be more practical for the program to calculate volume from
depth
and height of building
parameters.
We have found
that volume may not be simply area multiplied
by
depth and height. No changes
here
Staff
Response: Acceptable
7. Building Information tab. The year built functionality should
be
flagged for year of input. No change required here.
Staff
Response: Acceptable
8. Building Information tab. The Mobile home option under housing
type is not covered by Florida building
code and
should be removed from
the pull
down. We might look into getting
rid of
Mobile Homes, but not yet. We will simply send an error when
a mobile home is set for Florida
Energy Code.
Staff
Response: Staff recommends option be removed. This is outside the
scope of the Florida Building Code.
9. Building Information tab. Under housing type “none” should not be able to be selected. A building
file with a housing type set to
“none” would
cause a simulation
error and stop. A message would be shown that a housing type must be
selected. REM/Rate uses none as a
starting point rather than a default choice. We may change that when going to our web application. No changes made here.
Staff
Response: Acceptable
10. In
the help files there is no mention of the Florida Building
Code or its requirements it only
refers to
I-Code. We will reference in
Florida Energy Code in the code compliance section and
What’s New Section and
the Introduction.
Staff
Response: Staff is in agreement with vendor but this has not been
implemented. There is no way to evaluate
functionality.
11. Building
Information
tab. Under housing
type “Number of units” should be labeled
with
(Apartments Only). Not correct – for whole building multifamily only, not apartments. This is
something we could
do to
say that Number of Units is for whole building multifamily only. Level Type is for apartments only.
Staff
Response: Staff agrees but this has
not been implemented and has not been evaluated for accuracy.
12. Building Information tab. Floors on or above grade is confusing; REM Rate should ask for
Number of floors. We could
make that change for sure.
Staff
Response: Staff agrees but this has not been implemented and has
not been evaluated for accuracy.
13. Foundation Walls tab. Foundation walls screen should not be triggered if slab on grade is selected on previous screen. True – we could
look into locking out foundation walls if a slab floor
is selected as foundation
type. That is good software logic. We will make this change in
our
web version
for sure. No changes here.
Staff Response: Staff agrees but
this has not been implemented and has not been evaluated for accuracy.
14. Slab Floor tab. With slab on grade selected the program allows the entering of elevated
floor
specifications ie R-30. We
could easily limit the inputs to
reasonable numbers.
Staff Response: Staff is in agreement with this correction.
15. Help
screens. Diagrams would
be
helpful in showing what values relate to
a certain building
assembly and remove confusion. Good sections that
do
this are the help page for Rib and
Band Joists. It would
be
good to have diagrams for each Building tab. That is a good
idea – we can
enhance our help system with pictures for sure. WE have begun
this for slabs and foundations.
Staff Response: Staff agrees but this has
not been implemented and has not been evaluated for accuracy.
16. Above-Grade Wall
tab.
Above-Grade Wall
properties such as
“gross area” should
be
calculated
automatically by the program. There are no data fields to
enter dimensions of a wall.
Length and Height for example.
We have always had it
at gross area and the net area is calculated.
Means one less input. No changes made.
Staff Response: Acceptable.
17. Working with
a building
component should have popup or restriction
from deleted an item by accident. A “Do
you
really want to delete this item” message would be helpful. Agreed,
it would
be
helpful, but also annoying
if you are sure and
just do not need to see that information. WE could look into
that for our web application.
Staff Response: Acceptable
18. Please add functionality to widen
the “errors/warnings” box with handles or mouse dynamically.
The error/warning
box
can be detached
from the application and set as a stand
alone box and
then it can be sized appropriately.
Staff Response: Acceptable
19. Is
the only way to save added
components to
press the next button? There should
be
better save functionality to
kept data from
being lost and to kept progress from being
lost in general. The data must be manually
saved by hitting the save button or save in
the File menu. There is
no
autosave at this point. We have had mixed
feelings about this from
our users. Some do not
want autosave, others do. What is the right approach. For now we seem
to have most satisfied with manual
save.
Staff Response: Acceptable
20. Mechanical Efficiency tab. How does REM Rate account for performance efficiency adjustments
on new construction? What does Performance Adj. (%) have to do with Florida Code Compliance? Default at 100% - we used the Performance Adjustment in the Florida reference
home at 0.80 for equipment served
by
the ducts to represent the Duct System
Efficiency (DSE).
Staff Response: Acceptable
21. The REM Rate program does not restrict minimum required
R values below Florida Code
minimum requirements. For example on the Duct System
tab,
a duct R-value is allowed to be
entered
in unconditioned attic that is below R-8. We
are now checking
all mandatory
requirements for Florida code and
highlighting them prior to report viewing.
Mandatory Checks
1. UA Only - Electric Space Heating cannot be used for UA Analysis
2. UA Only - Air Handlers cannot be in the attic
3. UA Only - Window Area cannot exceed 20% ( Unless an addition
– the have 50% )
4. All –
Equipment Efficiency must be above federal minimums.
5. All –
Air Leakage
6. All –
Maximum Fenestration SHGC (includes overhang exemption)
7. All –
Duct Leakage
8. All –
Mechanical Ventilation
9. All –
Heating/Cooling
Equipment Sized Accordingly
a. Heating and
Cooling Equipment within 1.15 of capacity (warning only)
b. Efficiencies meeting
federal
minimums (water,
heat, cool)
10. Performance – Ceiling Insulation
shall be at least
R-19
11. Performance – Duct Insulation
R-6 if not fully inside conditioned envelope
Staff Response: Staff agrees but
this has not been implemented and has not been evaluated for accuracy.
22. In
the duct leakage the program allows selection
of
un-code related defaults such
as “RESnet/Hers default”
Yes, if any duct leakage setting besides ASHRAE Std
152 is used, it will automatically fail
all Florida reports.
Staff Response: Acceptable.
23. Duct System tab. Default duct leakage does not allow selection of “leaky with insulation” as a
default selection. These are defined based
on
the HERS
Standards,
but we will be removing soon as the new RESNET/ANSI
Standards to not define
qualitative duct leakage anymore.
Staff Response: Acceptable.
24. With
regard to air leakage the program does not allow for a passive compliance option.
The code allows for passive and as an option for testing.
Passive Compliance meaning
exempt. We do have a checkbox that allows for that in the duct screen. Maybe we need to understand the code better for passive compliance. What exactly does that mean?
Staff Response: Acceptable.
25. Whole house infiltration
tab. Menu
does not show Florida Building
Compliance. We changed
the nomenclature to code verification or something that is basic code compliance.
Staff Response: Acceptable.
26. Lights and Appliances tab. The Rating/Audit screen energy features that are not related to
the
Florida code ie. Appliances. Is there a way to remove appliances from a given project? The design
and reference home have the same values for lighting and
appliances. So there is no credit or discredit for lights and
appliances, but it is part of the total annual
energy costs.
Staff Response: This needs to be removed. It is not related to code
compliance.
27. Mandatory requirements screen is not functional. Most of these fields have no
bearing on
if a project passes the Florida Code.
True – only used for ENERGY
STAR but we use the checkbox for Florida to state that mandatory requirements that the software cannot check have been
met.
Staff Response: This should be removed. .
It is not related to code compliance.
28. DOE challenge home tab.
DOE
challenge home is not applicable to
Florida code compliance.
True – only used for DOE Challenge Home.
Staff Response: This should be removed. .
It is not related to code compliance.
29. Interior Mass tab.
Interior mass/interior walls not part of Florida code energy calculations.
The Florida code states credit can
be
gained from thermal storage internal mass. The reference
home has the standard 8 lbs per sq ft.
Staff Response: Acceptable
30. How are sunspace room factored in from the rest of the house. What calculations are involved?
What do these calculations have to
do with Florida code compliance? Heat from
the sunspace
can be actively or passively added to
home during
the heating
season.
Calculations are proprietary. WE simply calculate how much heat is captured
in a sunroom and
how much is utilized to
the conditioned space.
Staff Response: Acceptable
31. When doing
a quick analysis the Error/Warning screen does not refer to specific that is causing
the Error. This would
be
helpful. Some messages are better than
others but most are fairly
specific to
what is causing
the error.
Staff Response: Acceptable
32. Quick Analysis does not show a pass/fail
indicator for the Florida Code. The only way to determine this is to run
a report to
see
any Florida Code information.
We could add
Florida to QA
for
sure – that would not be a problem.
Staff Response: Staff agrees but this has not been
implemented and has not been evaluated for accuracy.
33. The Florida Form
405-10 (1) report/printout should only show data limited
to code compliance.
Footnote shows analysis for rating. The report shows what is in the building.
The footer is
exactly as shown in the sample reports from
the Florida website.
Staff Response: Acceptable.
34. REM Rate does not specify type of Roof to be constructed. For example Built up
roofing or
Metal. True.
Staff Response: This needs to be implemented and specified.
35. The software seems to
lack error checking
for
mandatory measures when running a performance compliance. A user could enter windows not meeting the area weighted
window SHGC when the overhang is less than
4 feet and
still
believe that they passed the code. The
building inspector would
have to
catch this on the output. We
are now checking all mandatory
requirements for Florida code and
highlighting them prior to report viewing.
Staff Response: Staff agrees but
this has not been implemented and has not been evaluated for accuracy.
36. The software also seems to
provide a detailed and
a simplified entry method
for data entry which does not provide wall
orientation or wall area and
perhaps other entries.
The simplified entry method will
be
less accurate and the commission
should consider whether they want to
allow the such a simplified method
if approving this software.
Answer - The simplified entry is converted to the detailed inputs prior to
any
analysis, but is done behind the interface. Most experienced users use the detailed
input screen. The compliance
runs through
the same process and error checking after mapping to detailed
inputs.
Staff Response: Staff recommends
that the simplified method needs to be disallowed. This is not conductive to code compliance.
37. The software does not provide an option
for
specifying
the construction is an
addition. Answer - Actually it does – under the Tools menu,
and the Miscellaneous, the Florida screen is
selected to be shown and when
a city in Florida is chosen, the screen becomes active and the
home can be set as new or an
addition.
Staff Response: Acceptable.
38. The FL Code report in REM/Rate uses the term “Baseline” when
it should indicate “Standard
Reference.”
Answer - IF he is referencing the 405 report, the example given from the Florida website uses
baseline loads as the title. Maybe I
am missing which report he is referencing.
Staff Response: Acceptable.
39. The software does not provide an
input for the user to identify a roof solar absorptance or
reflectance has been tested according
to the ASTM standard but provides credit anyhow.
Answer - This is set via the roof color setting under the ceiling/roof summary inputs.
Staff Response: Acceptable.
40. When you change refrigerators or lighting
in REM/rate (features of energy ratings) the Florida code compliance can change. For Florida code 2010, the internal
loads are fixed
and
the
performance values for code purposes should not change.
Answer – the internal
gains are fixed
for the code compliance. However, when a refrigerator is set in REM, for all codes, the same value is in
the design home and standard reference home. So, if
I enter 400 kWh
for the building, the reference home will
also have 400 kWh
and thus no
credit
or penalty is given. However, if I then
put
in 600 kWh, the standard reference will also have 600 kWh. So the results will change slightly for both design and
reference home.
Staff Response: This should be removed. It
is not related to code compliance.
41. The solar entry does not include the FEF input which is required
by
FL Code which states: True,
this is not one of the inputs for REM. We have our
own
calculation procedure for PV and
solar
thermal.
403.4.3.2.3 Solar
water heating systems. Solar
systems for domestic hot water production are rated by the annual solar energy factor
of the system. The solar energy factor
of a
system shall
be
determined from the Florida
Solar
Energy Center Directory of Certified Solar Systems. Solar collectors shall be tested in accordance with ISO Standard 9806,Test Methods for Solar Collectors, and SRCC Standard TM-1, Solar Domestic Hot Water System and Component Test Protocol.
Answer – For Florida Compliance – we will
not allow credit for solar thermal applications because we do not use the annual solar energy factor of the system.
Staff Response: It would be beneficial for the user to have this
option.
Additional
comments
42.) There is an error in the program. Whenever the print button located in the Quick Analysis window is pressed the program will crash. This was tested on two different PCs.