Florida Building Commission
Education POC Meeting Minutes
Tallahassee, Florida
IMPORTANT
MEETING ACCESS INFORMATION!
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Meeting information
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Date: Tuesday, August 2nd, 2016
Time: 10:00 am, Eastern Daylight Time (New York, GMT-05:00)
Meeting
ID: 148 382 085
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Education POC Meeting Objectives |
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Ø To
approve August 2, 2016 Meeting Agenda Ø To
approve March 31, 2016 Meeting Minutes and May 27, 2016 Meeting Report Ø
To review/decide pending accreditor
applications Ø
To review/decide accredited advanced courses Ø
To review/decide administratively approved
updated courses Ø
To review/decide self affirmed updated courses Ø
To review/discuss Education Administrator
activity report Ø
To identify future POC member discussion items Ø
To discuss general public comment Ø
To identify needed next steps, assignments,
and agenda items for next meeting |
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Education POC Meeting Minutes— August 2, 2016 |
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All Agenda Times—Including
Adjournment—Are Approximate and Subject to Change |
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10:10
a.m. EST |
1.) |
Welcome and Opening, Roll Call POC Members Present: Nanette
Dean, (Chair), Jeffrey Stone PhD, Kevin Flanagan, Darrell
Phillips POC Member(s) Absent: Brian
Langille, Drew Smith Meeting
Attendees Identified: Jim
Richmond Jim Hammers Nick
Duval April Hammonds Michael Clark Larry Schneider Charles Barr |
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2.) |
Review and approval of the August 2, 2016
meeting Agenda Motion: To
approve as submitted Motion: Darrell
Phillips Second: Kevin
Flanagan Approved Unanimously |
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3.) |
Review and approval of the March 31, 2016
Minutes and the May 27, 2016 meeting Report Motion: To
approve as submitted Motion: Kevin
Flanagan Second: Darrell
Phillips Approved Unanimously |
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4.) |
Review pending accreditor
applications for recommendation to the Commission Mr. Charles Barr Pending Discussion: The
Chair asked the Education Administrator, Michael Clark, to address
this agenda item. Mr. Clark stated that the applicant’s name is Mr. Charles
Barr and he currently resides in St. Augustine, Florida. He further stated
that Mr. Barr was previously approved as an accreditor at the December (2014)
ED POC meeting. Specifically, Mr. Barr was approved to review the courses
containing content regarding Class A Air Conditioning, Accessibility,
Administration, Class B Air Conditioning, Building Commercial, and Building
Residential. Mr. Barr, however, did not attend that meeting and he mistakenly
thought he was also approved to review courses in the other content areas of Alarm
1, Alarm II, Building-Special Occupancy, Commercial Pool/Spa, Electrical Commercial,
Energy, Electrical Residential, Fire, Fuel/Gas, Existing Building Code,
Mechanical, Plumbing, and Pollutant Storage System. As a result, Mr. Barr
is at this time requesting to be approved to review courses in these
additional content areas. Mr. Clark stated that all of the
ED POC members were sent Mr. Barr’s resume via email. He further stated that
he checked to verify that all of Mr. Barr’s licenses were current. The reason
that the status of a license “being current” is important, is because in
61G20-6.002 (1) line 5 it states that, “Applications (to become a provider) shall
be approved by the commission if the applicant has demonstrated five years of
Florida Building Code expertise in the field for which approval is sought, or
equivalent as specified below, or possess an “active license” issued pursuant
to……” On that resume, Mr. Barr specifically referenced the following
licenses, of which only 3 out of 7 are both current and active:
Mr. Clark then stated that the
decision regarding Mr. Barr’s request should be based on a combination of an
analysis of his resume, current licenses, and the equivalent factors
mentioned in 61G20-6.002 (1) (a) (b) (c) (d). Again, Mr. Clark stated that Mr. Barr wants to review courses regarding
the additional content areas of Alarm 1, Alarm II, Building-Special
Occupancy, Commercial Pool/Spa, Electrical Commercial, Energy, Electrical
Residential, Fire, Fuel/Gas, Existing Building Code, Mechanical, Plumbing,
and Pollutant Storage System. The Chair suggested that the ED POC
look at each content area individually, ask Mr. Barr to describe his
experience regarding each area and question him if needed, then motion to
approve/not approve. As a result, the ED POC members, with Mr. Barr
explaining his experience for each, did approve each of the additional
content areas. The following are the individual motions that occurred: Motion: To
approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of
Alarm I and Alarm II Motion: Jeffrey
Stone Second: Darrell
Phillips Approved Unanimously Motion: To
approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content area of
Building-Special Occupancy Motion: Kevin
Flanagan Second: Jeffrey
Stone Approved Unanimously Motion: To
approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content area of
Commercial Pool/Spa Motion: Kevin
Flanagan Second: Darrell
Phillips Approved Unanimously Motion: To
approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of
Electrical Commercial and Electrical Residential Motion: Kevin
Flanagan Second: Darrell
Phillips Approved Unanimously Motion: To
approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of
Energy, Fire, Fuel/Gas Motion: Jeffrey
Stone Second: Darrell
Phillips Approved Unanimously Motion: To
approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of
Existing Building Code, Mechanical, Plumbing, and Pollutant Storage Systems Motion: Kevin
Flanagan Second: Darrell
Phillips Approved Unanimously |
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5.) |
Review pending advanced accredited
courses for recommendation to the Commission Course: 2014 Advanced
Accessibility: The Florida Accessibility Code Reconciled With The ADA
Standards Provider: The McIntosh Group Accreditor: Larry M. Schneider
AIA BCIS Course Number: 796.0 Motion: Course conditionally approved
based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the
Florida Building Code related content, subject
to the addition in the syllabus as to how the course will be evaluated, as
well as the addition of a general time allotment for the course content
areas. Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Discussion:
The Education Administrator
found that no mention of how the course was to be evaluated was included in
the syllabus. Also missing was a general time allotment for the course
content areas. Both
of these pieces of information are required by rule language. Approved Unanimously Course: Advanced Internet
Florida Statutes Part II Course Provider: Alarm Tech Training Accreditor: Stay Safe
Enterprises BCIS Course Number: 798.0 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Discussion:
None Approved Unanimously Course: 2014 FBC – Advanced
Module Provider: Versatile
Industries, Inc. Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh BCIS Course Number: 794.0 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Discussion:
None Approved Unanimously Course: 2014 Advanced FBC
Update Provider: JC Code and
Construction Consultants, Inc. Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh BCIS Course Number: 801.0 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Discussion:
None Approved Unanimously Course: 2014 Advanced
Florida Building Code – Components and Cladding Provider: YKK AP America Inc. Accreditor: BCIC LLC BCIS Course Number: 799.0 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Discussion: Commissioner Flanagan stated that he thought the course exhibited a
very nice presentation. Approved Unanimously |
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Review pending administratively
approved updated courses for recommendation to the Commission Course: 2014 Thermal and
Moisture Protection: Keeping the Weather Out Provider: A Builders License
Training Institute Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh BCIS Course Number: 635.1 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Discussion:
None Approved Unanimously Course: 2014 Advanced
Building Code Course For Pool Contractors (Internet) Provider: Aquatic Training
Institute Accreditor: BCIC LLC BCIS Course Number: 359.2 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Discussion:
None Approved Unanimously |
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7.) |
Review pending administratively
approved self affirmed (ONE CHANGE) updated courses for recommendation to the
Commission None Pending |
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8.) |
Education Administrator activity
report Discussion: The
Education Administrator stated that the report contained brief descriptions
of the normal activities of the Administrator from May 16th through July
24th, 2016, including staffing the ED POC meetings and handling inquiries
from a variety of sources concerning the FBC Education Program. He also
stated that “Training Funding” information (for 2016-2017) was also included
in the report, which was promoted by Building A Safer Florida (BASF), and
which included the who/what of eligibility requirements. He stated that if
anyone was interested, or had questions, to contact Cam Fentriss by the email
address listed with the information. No questions were forthcoming from the
ED POC members concerning the report content. Larry Schneider (a training provider
and accreditor) did ask why “Accessibility” was not included as a possible
eligible course topic within the Training Funding Information. The Education
Administrator did not know of a reason and stated he would ask Cam Fentriss
(BASF) why it was not included. He also stated that he would report back to
the ED POC, as well as call Mr. Schneider with his findings. A. Provided administrative support for FBC Education POC for
the May 27th, 2016 meeting B. Drafted report for FBC Education POC May 27th, 2016
meeting C. Prepared agenda for FBC Education
POC meeting on August 2nd, 2016 D. Worked with training providers and
accreditors to ensure compliance with Rule 61G20-6.002 E. Checked the BCIS to ensure
information is current regarding the FBC Education and Accreditation Program F. Inquiries addressed from May 16th, 2016 to July 24th, 2016
were as follows: Category of Inquirers : 1 Architect 4 Accreditor 9 Provider 19 Consumer 6 Contractor 1 Engineer 1 Private Investigator 1 Code enforcement officer Types of Inquiries : 10 Advanced Courses 4 BCIS 1 CILB 1 Education Rule Language 2 Provider approval 6 Mobile, module, manufactured
housing 6 Windows 1 Construction lien law 1 Warranty 1 CDBG 4 Pools 3 Homeowner association/covenants 1 ADA 1 Fire Sprinkler
Training Funding Available for 2016-2017 Two types
of funding: 7-hour program or “minimum 1 hour” program Reimbursement
amount: $23.00 per hour per attendee Available now, ends June 15, 2017 Eligible
attendees: --
Licensed architects, engineers, interior designers, landscape architects,
construction contractors, electrical contractors,
or building code administrators or inspectors -- Home
inspectors, mold remediators --- Must
include license number for all categories above --
Employees in design and construction industries, requires this documentation: ---
Letter from their design/construction licensed employer --- Copy
of certificate of workers’ compensation insurance or exemption Eligible
course topics: --
Florida Building Code --
Florida Fire Prevention Code --
Construction plan and permitting requirements --
Construction liens --
Hurricane mitigation For
“minimum 1 hour” program, course requirements: -- At
least 50% must be codes For
7-hour program, course requirements: -- At
least three (3) hours codes -- At
least two (2) hours advanced codes For any
program, course requirements: --
Mitigation training for home inspectors must include proctored exam and
comply with section 627.711(2), F.S. --
*Course evaluations are REQUIRED that cover the following: ---
Satisfaction with instructor ---
Satisfaction with course materials ---
Satisfaction with conduct of the training --- Ask
whether “highly satisfied” “satisfied” “not satisfied” for each above Must
enter into an agreement before submitting for grant funds, must verify
availability of funds first. Documentation
required (failure to submit is a 5% penalty): --
Submitted within FIVE (5) WORKING DAYS AFTER EACH COURSE --
Advertisement (must be approved in advance) -- Sign
in sheets as acceptable for each licensing board --
Separate sign in sheets for licensees and non-licensed employees --
Non-licensed employee sign in sheets must include type of proof submitted -- *Copy
of course evaluation for each attendee *Failure
to demonstrate that 75% or more of trainees were satisfied or highly
satisfied with the course instructor will result in a 1% penalty for each 5%
increment or portion thereof that the percentage of satisfied trainees fall below
75%. E-mail
Cam Fentriss at basfgrant@gmail.com if interested and for more information. |
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9.) |
Identify future POC member
discussion items No future ED POC member
discussion items were forthcoming. |
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10.) |
General public comment No comments from the general
public were forthcoming. |
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11.) |
Summary and review of meeting work products
and adoption of recommendations for submittal to the commission Recommended
Commission Actions
The Education POC considered and recommends the following: The following new courses are recommended for
APPROVAL: Course: Advanced Internet
Florida Statutes Part II Course Provider: Alarm Tech Training Accreditor: Stay Safe Enterprises BCIS Course Number: 798.0 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously Course: 2014 FBC – Advanced
Module Provider: Versatile
Industries, Inc. Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh BCIS Course Number: 794.0 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously Course: 2014 Advanced FBC
Update Provider: JC Code and
Construction Consultants, Inc. Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh BCIS Course Number: 801.0 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously Course: 2014 Advanced
Florida Building Code – Components and Cladding Provider: YKK AP America Inc. Accreditor: BCIC LLC BCIS Course Number: 799.0 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously The following new course is recommended for CONDITIONAL
APPROVAL: Course: 2014 Advanced
Accessibility: The Florida Accessibility Code Reconciled With The ADA
Standards Provider: The McIntosh Group Accreditor: Larry M. Schneider
AIA BCIS Course Number: 796.0 Motion: Course conditionally approved
based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the
Florida Building Code related content, subject
to the addition in the syllabus as to how the course will be evaluated, as
well as the addition of a general time allotment for the course content
areas. Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously The following administratively approved
updated courses are recommended for APPROVAL: Course: 2014 Thermal and
Moisture Protection: Keeping the Weather Out Provider: A Builders License
Training Institute Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh BCIS Course Number: 635.1 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously Course: 2014 Advanced
Building Code Course For Pool Contractors (Internet) Provider: Aquatic Training
Institute Accreditor: BCIC LLC BCIS Course Number: 359.2 Motion: Course approved based on the FBC
accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building
Code related content Motion: Kevin Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously Other ED POC Motions Motion: To
approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of
Alarm I and Alarm II Motion: Jeffrey
Stone Second: Darrell
Phillips Approved Unanimously Motion: To
approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content area of
Building-Special Occupancy Motion: Kevin
Flanagan Second: Jeffrey
Stone Approved Unanimously Motion: To
approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content area of
Commercial Pool/Spa Motion: Kevin
Flanagan Second: Darrell
Phillips Approved Unanimously Motion: To
approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of
Electrical Commercial and Electrical Residential Motion: Kevin
Flanagan Second: Darrell
Phillips Approved Unanimously Motion: To
approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of
Energy, Fire, Fuel/Gas Motion: Jeffrey
Stone Second: Darrell
Phillips Approved Unanimously Motion: To
approve Mr. Charles Barr to accredit courses regarding the content areas of
Existing Building Code, Mechanical, Plumbing, and Pollutant Storage Systems Motion: Kevin
Flanagan Second: Darrell
Phillips Approved Unanimously |
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12.) |
Adjourned at 10:41 am est Motion: To adjourn Motion: Kevin
Flanagan Second: Darrell Phillips Approved Unanimously |
Staff
Contact: Michael Clark (MRC Consulting) mrcconsulting@earthlink.net;
850.545.1451
Committee Membership
and Meeting Schedule
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Education POC Membership |
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Member |
Representation |
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Nanette Dean |
Manufactured Buildings, Chair |
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Kevin Flanagan |
Electrical Contractor |
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Drew Smith |
Green Building Industry |
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Jeffrey Stone PhD |
Building Product Manufacturer |
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Darrell Phillips |
Public Education |
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Brian Langille |
Natural Gas Distributor |
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Staff |
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April Hammonds |
Legal Advisor |
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Jim Hammers |
Technical Support |
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Jim Richmond |
Administrative |
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Facilitator |
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Michael Clark |
(MRC Consulting) |
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2016 POC Meeting Schedule |
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I. |
January 29, 2016 (10:00 AM EST) |
Tallahassee and via teleconference |
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II. |
March 31, 2016 (10:00 AM EST) |
Tallahassee and via teleconference |
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III. |
May 27, 2016 (10:00 AM EST) |
Tallahassee and via teleconference |
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IV. |
August 2, 2016 (10:00 AM EST) |
Tallahassee and via teleconference |
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October, 2016 (TBA) (10:00 AM EST) |
Tallahassee and via teleconference |
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VI. |
December, 2016 (TBA) (10:00 AM EST) |
Tallahassee and via teleconference |
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2016 Course Accreditation Application
Deadline Schedule |
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ED POC Meeting Date |
Accredited Applications Submittal Deadline |
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I. |
January 29, 2016 Meeting |
January 17, 2016 |
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II. |
March 31, 2016 Meeting |
March 20, 2016 |
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III. |
May, 27, 2016 Meeting |
May 16, 2016 |
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IV. |
August 2, 2016 Meeting |
July 25, 2016 |
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V. |
October, 2016 Meeting (TBA) |
September, 2016 (TBA) |
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VI. |
December, 2016 Meeting (TBA) |
November, 2016 (TBA) |
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