Florida Building Commission

Education POC Meeting Minutes

December 3, 2015

Tallahassee, Florida

 

 

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Education POC Meeting Minutes

Ø To approve December 3, 2015 Meeting Agenda

Ø To approve October 5, 2015 Meeting Minutes

Ø To review/decide pending accreditor applications

Ø To review/decide accredited advanced courses

Ø To review/decide administratively approved updated courses

Ø To review/decide self affirmed updated courses

Ø To review/discuss Education Administrator activity report

Ø To identify future POC member discussion items

Ø To discuss general public comment

Ø To identify needed next steps, assignments, and agenda items for next meeting

 

Education POC Meeting Minutes— December 3, 2015

All Agenda Times—Including Adjournment—Are Approximate and Subject to Change

10:00 a.m. EST

1.)

Welcome and Opening, Roll Call

POC Members Present: Nanette Dean, (Chair),  

Jeffrey Stone PhD, Kevin Flanagan, Darrell Phillips

POC Member(s) Absent: Drew Smith, Brian Langille

Meeting Attendees Identified:

Jim Richmond       Jim Hammers

Mo Madani                                                   

Michael Clark                         

            Cam Fentriss  

 

 

2.)

Review and approval of the December 3, 2015 meeting Agenda

Motion: To approve as submitted

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

 

3.)

Review and approval of October 5, 2015 meeting Minutes

Motion: To approve as submitted

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

 

4.)

Review pending accreditor applications for recommendation to the Commission

None Pending

 

 

5.)

Review pending advanced accredited courses for recommendation to the Commission

 

Course: 2014 Advanced Florida Energy Conservation Code & Florida Mechanical Code

Provider: Florida Engineering Society

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 766.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Jeffrey Stone

Discussion: None

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 Florida Building Code Advanced 5th Edition: Structural Summary of Provisions-Internet

Provider: RedVector.com, LLC

Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh

BCIS Course Number: 753.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Discussion: None

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced FBC Code Enforcement, Product Approval, TAC’s and Committees (Internet)

Provider: The Media Factory, Inc.

Accreditor: Charles Barr

BCIS Course Number: 758.0

Motion: Course conditionally approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content, subject to the out of date code references (on slides 31, 32, and 36) being changed to the current code reference number, and quiz questions and answers being added for review.

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Discussion: The Education Administrator stated that on slide numbers 31, 32, and 36, Rule 9B-72 was listed as the code reference for the material. This reference should be changed to the current Rule number, 61G20-3. Also, it was referenced in the course syllabus that quiz questions would need to be answered after each section of the material. Upon checking, neither quiz questions nor answers were found.

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced FBC Permits, Inspections, and Private Providers (Internet)

Provider: The Media Factory, Inc.

Accreditor: Charles Barr

BCIS Course Number: 759.0

Motion: Course conditionally approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content, subject to the quiz questions and answers being added for review.

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Jeffrey Stone

Discussion: The Education Administrator stated that it was referenced in the course syllabus that quiz questions would need to be answered after each section of the material. Upon checking, neither quiz questions nor answers were found in the materials.

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 FBC 5th Edition Updates For Contractors and Adjustors-Advanced

Provider: IRP-FLORIDA

Accreditor: Contractor’s Institute (Koning Enterprises, Inc.)

BCIS Course Number: 760.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Discussion: Commissioner Flanagan stated that he thought the provider did an excellent job with this course.

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 FBC 5th Edition Building Code Basics-Advanced

Provider: IRP-FLORIDA

Accreditor: Contractor’s Institute (Koning Enterprises, Inc.)

BCIS Course Number: 761.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Discussion: None

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 FBC 5th Edition Updates for Designers and Code Professionals-Advanced

Provider: IRP-FLORIDA

Accreditor: Contractor’s Institute (Koning Enterprises, Inc.)

BCIS Course Number: 755.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Discussion: None

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 Advanced Florida Building Code

Provider: Royal Construction School/Mark Maccagno

Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh

BCIS Course Number: 744.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Darrell Phillips

Second: Kevin Flanagan

Discussion: Commissioner Flanagan asked why there were so many deleted lines on the course slides. The Education Administrator stated that some providers present their material showing the deletions, versus just deleting the verbiage.

Approved Unanimously

 

 

 

 

6.)

 

Review pending administratively approved updated courses for recommendation to the Commission

None Pending

 

 

 

7.)

 

Review pending administratively approved self affirmed dated courses for recommendation to the Commission

None Pending

 

 

 

8.)

 

Education Administrator activity report

Discussion: The Education Administrator stated that the report contained the normal activities of the Administrator, including staffing the ED POC meetings and handling inquiries from a variety of sources concerning the FBC Education Program. He also stated that “Training Funding” information was also included in the report, which was promoted by Building A Safer Florida (BASF), and which included the who/what of eligibility requirements. He stated that if anyone was interested, or had questions, to contact Cam Fentriss by the email address listed with the information.

Jim Richmond asked why the Department of Agriculture had contacted the BCIS website. Cam Fentriss stated that they were interested in advanced courses.

 

FBC Education Administrator Activity Report                November 24, 2015

 

A. Provided administrative support for FBC Education POC for the October 5th, 2015 meeting

 

B. Drafted minutes for FBC Education POC October 5, 2015 meeting

 

C. Prepared agenda for FBC Education POC meeting on December 3rd, 2015

 

D. Worked with training providers and accreditors to ensure compliance with Rule 61G20-6.002

 

E. Checked the BCIS to ensure information is current regarding the FBC Education and Accreditation Program

 

F. Inquiries addressed from September 25, 2015 to November 24, 2015 were as follows:

44 inquiries: 25 Telephone; 18 E-mail; 1 Telephone and e-mail

Category of Inquirers:

13 Consumer
4 Contractor
9 Provider

11 Accreditor
1 Architect
1 Engineer
1 Code enforcement official
1 Insurer
3 Corporation
1 Realtor
1 Dept. of Ag. And Consumer Services

Types of Inquiries:

11 Advanced course

7 BCIS issues
1 Code courses for plans reviewer
4 HVAC
2 Windows
2 Mobile home
1 Shed
4 Modular building
1 Aluminum wiring
1 Condominium compliance
3 Construction Lien law
2 Use of property
1 Housing Assistance Certification
1 Private provider listing
3 Verify DCA employment

Training Funding Available for 2015-2016

 

Two types of funding: 7-hour program or “minimum 1 hour” program

Reimbursement amount: $23.00 per hour per attendee Available now, ends June 15, 2016

Eligible attendees:

-- Licensed architects, engineers, interior designers, landscape architects, construction contractors, electrical contractors, or building code administrators or inspectors

-- Home inspectors, mold remediators

            -- Must include license number for all categories above

-- Employees in design and construction industries, requires this documentation:

-- Letter from their design/construction licensed employer

-           -- Copy of certificate of workers’ compensation insurance or exemption

 

Eligible course topics:

-- Florida Building Code

-- Florida Fire Prevention Code

-- Construction plan and permitting requirements

-- Construction liens

-- Hurricane mitigation

 

For “minimum 1 hour” program, course requirements:

-- At least 50% must be codes

 

For 7-hour program, course requirements:

-- At least three (3) hours codes

-- At least two (2) hours advanced codes

 

For any program, course requirements:

-- Mitigation training for home inspectors must include proctored exam and comply with section 627.711(2), F.S.

-- *Course evaluations are REQUIRED that cover the following:

--- Satisfaction with instructor

--- Satisfaction with course materials

-           -- Satisfaction with conduct of the training

--- Ask whether “highly satisfied” “satisfied” “not satisfied” for each above

 

Documentation required (failure to submit is a 5% penalty):

-- Submitted within FIVE (5) WORKING DAYS AFTER EACH COURSE

-- Advertisement (must be approved in advance)

-- Sign in sheets as acceptable for each licensing board

-- Separate sign in sheets for licensees and non-licensed employees

-- Non-licensed employee sign in sheets must include type of proof submitted

-- *Copy of course evaluation for each attendee

 

*Failure to demonstrate that 75% or more of trainees were satisfied or highly satisfied with the course instructor will result in a 1% penalty for each 5% increment or portion thereof that the percentage of satisfied trainees fall below 75%.

 

E-mail Cam Fentriss at basfanswers@aol.com or info@buildingasaferflorida.org if interested.

 

 

9.)

Identify future POC member discussion items

No future ED POC member discussion items were forthcoming.

 

 

10.)

General public comment

No public comment was forthcoming.

 

 

11.)

Summary and review of meeting work products and adoption of recommendations for submittal to the commission

 

Recommended Commission Actions

 

The Education POC considered and recommends the following:

 

The following new courses are recommended for APPROVAL:

 

Course: 2014 Advanced Florida Energy Conservation Code & Florida Mechanical Code

Provider: Florida Engineering Society

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 766.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Jeffrey Stone

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 Florida Building Code Advanced 5th Edition: Structural Summary of Provisions-Internet

Provider: RedVector.com, LLC

Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh

BCIS Course Number: 753.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 FBC 5th Edition Updates For Contractors and Adjustors-Advanced

Provider: IRP-FLORIDA

Accreditor: Contractor’s Institute (Koning Enterprises, Inc.)

BCIS Course Number: 760.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 FBC 5th Edition Building Code Basics-Advanced

Provider: IRP-FLORIDA

Accreditor: Contractor’s Institute (Koning Enterprises, Inc.)

BCIS Course Number: 761.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 FBC 5th Edition Updates for Designers and Code Professionals-Advanced

Provider: IRP-FLORIDA

Accreditor: Contractor’s Institute (Koning Enterprises, Inc.)

BCIS Course Number: 755.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2014 Advanced Florida Building Code

Provider: Royal Construction School/Mark Maccagno

Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh

BCIS Course Number: 744.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content

Motion: Darrell Phillips

Second: Kevin Flanagan

Approved Unanimously

 

 

Conditionally Approved Courses

 

Course: Advanced FBC Code Enforcement, Product Approval, TAC’s and Committees (Internet)

Provider: The Media Factory, Inc.

Accreditor: Charles Barr

BCIS Course Number: 758.0

Motion: Course conditionally approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content, subject to the out of date code references (on slides 31, 32, and 36) being changed to the current code reference number, and quiz questions and answers being added for review.

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Darrell Phillips

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced FBC Permits, Inspections, and Private Providers (Internet)

Provider: The Media Factory, Inc.

Accreditor: Charles Barr

BCIS Course Number: 759.0

Motion: Course conditionally approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content, subject to the quiz questions and answers being added for review.

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Jeffrey Stone

Approved Unanimously

 

 

12.)

Adjourned at 10:20 am est

Motion: To adjourn

Motion: Kevin Flanagan

Second: Jeffrey Stone

Approved Unanimously

 

Staff Contact: Michael Clark (MRC Consulting) mrcconsulting@earthlink.net; 850.545.1451

 

Committee Membership and Meeting Schedule

 

 

Education POC Membership

Member

Representation

Nanette Dean

Manufactured Buildings, Chair

Kevin Flanagan

Electrical Contractor

Drew Smith

Green Building Industry

Jeffrey Stone PhD

Building Product Manufacturer

Darrell Phillips

Public Education

Brian Langille

Natural Gas Distributor

 

Staff

April Hammonds

Legal Advisor

Jim Hammers

Technical Support

Jim Richmond

Administrative

Facilitator

Michael Clark

(MRC Consulting)

 

2015 POC Meeting Schedule

I.(A)

January 14, 2015 (10:00 AM EST)(Special)

Tallahassee and via teleconference

I.(B)

February 12, 2015 (10:00 AM EST)

Tallahassee and via teleconference

II.

April 9, 2015 (10:00 AM EST)

Tallahassee and via teleconference

III.

June 11, 2015 (10:00 AM EST)

Tallahassee and via teleconference

IV.

August 10, 2015 (10:00 AM EST)

Tallahassee and via teleconference

V.

October 5, 2015 (8:30 AM EST)

Tallahassee and via teleconference

VI.

December 3, 2015 (10:00 AM EST)

Tallahassee and via teleconference

 

 

 

2015 Course Accreditation Application Deadline Schedule

 

ED POC Meeting Date

Accredited Applications  Submittal Deadline

I.(A)

January 14, 2015 Meeting

January 6, 2015

I.(B)

February 12, 2015 Meeting

January 28, 2015

II.

April 9, 2015 Meeting

March 25, 2015

III.

June 11, 2015 Meeting

May 26, 2015

IV.

August 10, 2015 Meeting

July 2015

V.

October 5, 2015 Meeting

September 21, 2015

VI.

December 3, 2015 Meeting

November 22, 2015

 

 

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