Product Approval / Manufactured
Buildings
Program Oversight Committee (POC)
MINUTES
Feb 2nd
2009: 9.00 a.m. - 12.26 p.m.
Crowne Plaza Melbourne Oceanfront Hotel
2605 N AIA Highway, Melbourne FL, 1-800-980-6429 or 321-777-4100
Product Approval POC Attendees: Ed Carson- Chairman, Herminio Gonzalez, Paul Kidwell, Chris Schulte and Jeffrey Stone. Staff present: Azhar Khan, Joe Bigelow, Mo Madani, Rick Dixon and Jim Richmond. Jeff Blair facilitated the meeting. Ted Berman, Product Approval Administrator was also present.
There was a quorum.
1. Agenda was approved as presented. December 8th minutes were approved with a minor change.
The change is as follows:
3.
Product Approval Program Issues
E. Standard Equivalency between ASTM E 1300-2
to ASTM E 1300-04 with limitations as applied to
laminated glass as identified in the engineering report
2. Product Approval Program Issues
A. Product Approval and Entities Statistics Report
Staff presented the current entities and product statistics from inception of the program.
B. Product Approval Administrator’s Performance survey
Staff presented to the Committee the Survey Results. Although only a few results were received, the survey feedback was positive.
C. Provide Comments to the Rule Adoption Hearing for Rule 9B-72.090 and Rule 9B-72.180 on Feb 17th.
Staff presented to the Committee
the comments received. Various comments were made during the meeting and the
Committee worked on proposed language recommendation to the Commission. The details
are attached in the Rule Matrix which will be made available as comments to the
Hearings on February 17th.
Proposed Language is below:
Rule 9B-72.190
(1)(a) through (d) No change.
(e) As part of application for self-affirmation, if the
evaluation report refers to the previous edition of the Code, the manufacturer
of the approved product shall submit a statement from an approved evaluation or
original validation entity that the product complies with the subsequent code
version via an attachment uploaded and submitted through the BCIS. Self-affirmation is subject to review and
verification by the Program Administrator.
(f) and (g) No change.
(2) and (3) No change.
Rule 9B-72.180
(1) and (2) No change
(3) Standard which meet or
exceeds standards referenced by 2007 edition of the Code and recognized as
equivalent for determining Code Compliance are:
(a) ANSI/DASMA108-02 Standard Method for Testing Sectional Garage Doors and
Rolling Doors: Determination of Structural Performance under Uniform Static Air
Pressure Difference equivalent to ANSI/DASMA 108-05;
(b) TPI 1-02 National Design
Standards for Metal-Plate-Connected Wood Truss Construction equivalent to TPI
1-07; and
(c) ASTM E 1300-02 Practice for
Determining Load Resistance of Glass in Buildings equivalent to ASTM E 1300-04.
(4)(3) Equivalence of
product standards for specific product application. Standards which meet or
exceed standards referenced by the Code and certified as equivalent for
determining code compliance by one of the following entities shall be
considered as equivalent by the Commission:
(a) An approved certification agency;
(b) An approved test lab;
(c) An approved evaluation entity;
(d)
(e) A nationally recognized standard writing organization.
(5)(4) Equivalence of accreditation
standards. Where approved evaluation entities and accreditation bodies accredit
testing laboratories, certification agencies and quality assurance agencies to
standards other than the referenced ISO standards in Rule 9B-72.100, F.A.C.,
the accrediting body shall certify to the Commission that its standard is
equivalent to the ISO standard. Such certification shall contain:
(a) A sworn statement by the officer of the accrediting body; and
(b) A comparison of the accrediting body’s standard to each criteria of
the ISO reference standard with an explanation of why it is considered
equivalent.
(6)(5) Organizations:
(a) ANSI – American National Standards Institute;
(b) AAMA – American Architectural Manufacturers Association;
(c) ASTM – American Society of Testing and Materials;
(d) DASMA – Door Access Systems Manufacturers Association; and
(e) NWWDA – National Wood Window and Door Association.
D. Revocations for the
following products:
Staff consulted with the legal counsel on the revocation of
these products and recommended to the Committee for them to be revoked.
|
FL |
Mfg Name |
|
3941-R1 6331 9945 9946 9947 |
Uroll Shutters |
|
5486, 5497 |
TNT Roofing Manufacturer |
|
7140, 7617, 7618 |
Atlantic Windows and Doors, Inc. |
POC
Action:
The Committee voted to recommend to the
Commission to proceed with the revocation process for the products listed in
the table above.
E. Petition
by Powers Steel Corporation to revoke FL 158.
The POC heard presentations from both Powers Steel and Cast-Crete.
POC
Action:
The Committee denied the request for an investigation since no valid concern was provided. Commission Gonzalez and Commissioner Carson abstained from voting. The vote was 3 to 0 against.
4. Declaratory Statements:
DCA08-DEC-339 by Jose Sanchez,
Fenestration Testing Laboratory, Inc
POC Action:
The Committee voted to dismiss DCA08-DEC-339 due to the fact that the petitioner failed to provide information that
was requested by the POC at the previous meeting.
DCA08-DEC-345
by James Reed, Southwest Progressive Enterprises, Inc
POC
Action:
The Committee voted to defer DCA08-DEC-345 until the next meeting.
DCA08-DEC-359 by Michael J. Wolfe, Advanced Shelter Solutions, Inc
POC
Action:
The Committee voted to dismiss DCA08-DEC-359 as it is outside the scope for Declaratory Statements.
4. Ted Berman & Associates Report
A.
Review product approval and entity applications.
B. Product Approval Applications with Comments.
The Committee reviewed products and applications. There were no entities up for approval at this meeting.
Public Comments were made by the following:
Steve Sincere:
Requested that an investigation by conducted on product applications FL 7350 and FL 9328. He stated that a number of problems exist in the current approval such as, testing conducted does not match the product report documentation. Testing was done as single beam without consideration to compression, deflection limits not stated etc.
Colleen Simon and Jesus Gonzalez:
Jesus Gonzalez made a presentation detailing deficiencies personally observed at Colleen Simon’s residence and another residence with similar problems to the Committee.
5.
Adjourn
The Committee adjourned at 12.26
Actions
needed by the Commission:
Product Approval POC:
1. The Committee recommends the products listed in Administrator's report be approved, deferred, conditionally approved or denied as per voted on by the Committee.
2. The Committee recommends the following products for revocation:
|
FL |
Mfg Name |
|
3941-R1 6331 9945 9946 9947 |
Uroll Shutters |
|
5486, 5497 |
TNT Roofing Manufacturer |
|
7140, 7617, 7618 |
Atlantic Windows and Doors, Inc. |