Florida Building Commission

April Education POC Meeting Minutes
 

Telephone Conference Call Number 1-888-808-6959, Access Code:  1967168
In Person Attendance: Room 250L, 2555 Shumard Oak Boulevard, Tallahassee, Florida


April 1, 2010

Time 10:00 a.m. ET

 

POC Members Present: Dick Browdy (Chair), Jon Hamrick, Herminio Gonzalez, Ken Gregory

POC Member(s) Absent: Tony Grippa

 

Meeting Attendees Identified:

 

Sharon Mignardi                              Cam Fentriss                        

Med Kopczynski                              Ila Jones

Tim Tolbert                                       Michael Clark           

 

Meeting was called to order at 10:02 a.m.  April 1, 2010

 

 

1. Review and approval of the April 2010 Agenda

 

Motion: To approve as submitted

Motion: Ken Gregory

Second:  Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

 

2. Review and approval of February 2010 Minutes

 

Motion: To approve as submitted

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second:  Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

 

3. Review pending advanced accredited courses for recommendation to the Commission

 

Course: 2007 FBC Advanced Electrical Class

Provider: Electrical Council of Florida

Accreditor: JC Code and Construction Consultants, Inc.

BCIS Course Number: 410.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2007 Fla. Building Code Administration Advanced Code Training

Provider: Alabama Associated General Contractors

Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh

BCIS Course Number: 397.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced 2007 FBC Roofing Checklist Construction

Provider: Advanced Benefits, Inc.

Accreditor: JC Code and Construction Consultants, Inc.

BCIS Course Number: 405.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced Fair Housing Act OR The Seven Deadly Sins of FHA

Provider: AIA Florida

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 413.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced Florida Building Code (Egress Flow)

Provider: Codeaccess

Accreditor: JDB Code Services, Inc.

BCIS Course Number: 408.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Florida’s Advanced Energy Code

Provider: FRSA – Fl. Rfg., Sheet Metal, Air Cond., Contractors Association

Accreditor: JC Code and Construction Consultants, Inc.

BCIS Course Number: 414.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Internet 2007 Building Code Residential With 2009 Supplements Advanced Course

Provider: Thomas A. Lee

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 415.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

 

4. Review administratively approved updated advanced courses for recommendation to Commission

 

None pending

 

 

5. Review pending accreditor applications for recommendation to the Commission

 

None pending

 

 

6. Discuss draft rule language to allow self affirmation by providers, for advanced courses requiring minor technical changes, instead of the currently required full accreditation process.

 

The Chair asked Cam Fentriss to update the POC regarding the status of the proposed language for “course self affirmation”.

 

Cam stated that no changes have been made to the language since the last Education POC meeting. Further, she said that the proposed language has been published in the F.A.W., to be reviewed in a Rule Development Workshop at next week’s April Florida Building Commission meeting.

 

The Chair requested that the POC move for approval of the current proposed language.

 

Motion: To request that the current language regarding course self affirmation be recommended to be approved by the full Commission.

Motion: Ken Gregory

Second: Jon Hamrick

Approved Unanimously

 

 

7. Report on the Building Code Compliance & Mitigation Program Request for Proposal (RFP)

 

The Chair asked Ila Jones to update the POC regarding the status of this contract. Ila reported that the current contract will expire on June 30, 2010. She further stated that criteria previously developed by the POC describing the role of the Education Administrator will be included in this RFP as it was for the last RFP and contract. Procedurally, the RFP will be posted on May 4, with a closing date of May 20, with responses evaluated on May 26, and the new contract awarded so that the contract is in place by July 1, 2010. Ms. Jones finally stated that statute allows for this contract to be let for four years with one four year renewal.

 

 

8.  Education Administrator activity report

 

A. Provided administrative support for FBC Education POC January 29, 2010 meeting

 

B. Drafted minutes for FBC Education POC January 29, 2010 meeting

 

C. Prepared agenda for FBC Education POC meeting on April 1, 2010

 

D.  Inquiries from the public from January 30, 2010 to March 30, 2010 as follows:

25 inquiries:  8 telephone and email; 4 telephone only; 13 email only

Category of inquirers:

10 Architects/Interior Designers      3 Engineers                           8 Providers

1 Building Official                              1 General Contractor            1 Electrical Contractor

1 Consumer

 Types of Inquiries:

4 Core                                    4 Licensing                            8 Provider question

1 CILB CE                             1 Interior Design CE 6 Advanced codes

1 Mobile home

 

E.  Legislation for 2010 session (contact Cam at basfanswers@aol.com for a copy by e-mail):

SB 648 - Relating to Building Safety (Bennett) (building codes bill for 2010 session) - moving
HB 663 - Relating to Building Safety (Aubuchon) (companion to SB 648 above) - moving

SB 266 - Relating to Department of Community Affairs  (Bennett) (shell bill)
SB 268 - Relating to Department of Community Affairs  (Bennett) (shell bill)
SB 270 - Relating to Florida Building Code  (Bennett) (shell bill)
SB 272 - Relating to Florida Building Code  (Bennett) (shell bill)
SB 846 / HB 7095 - Relating to Fire Sprinklers  (Bennett)(Schenck/House Governmental Affairs)
SB 2694 - Relating to Florida Building Commission (Constantine)

 

SB 648 and HB 663 are moving along and this legislation should pass this session.  SB 266-272 are “shell” bills meaning they do not contain anything – they simply express legislative intent to change the law on the subject as specified – no action on these.  These bills are placeholders and may not even be used.  If scheduled for hearing, substantive legislation will be amended onto the bill at its first committee hearing.  SB 2694 contains some provisions (same or similar) to provisions in HB 663/SB 648.

 

F.  Pending issue on whether accreditation and subsequent approval process of current Accessibility course is an issue for legal counsel or can be done procedurally by Education POC – will research next month (after conclusion of legislative session).

 

Discussion

Cam Fentriss stated that SB 648 and HB 663 did contain some language remnants to eliminate the core course. She further stated that SB 2694 (Senator Constantine’s bill) has not moved at all at this point.

 

Commissioner Gregory asked if SB 2694 was a fall back bill. Ms. Fentriss stated that it appears to be, in case SB 648 and HB 663 were to “blow up”. Ms. Fentriss further stated that the reason this situation exists is because Senator Bennett has threatened to place “residential fire sprinkler systems” language in SB 648, which the Governor may not sign into law, thus the “blow up”.

 

 

9. Identify future POC member discussion items

 

Commissioner Gregory asked the Chair if there existed the means for the POC to know or make sure that courses that are accredited, are in fact being taught as they were accredited.

 

The Chair responded by stating that our rule (9B-70.002) does allow the POC (through the Education Administrator) to conduct random audits on accredited courses. The Chair further stated that if a Commissioner received a complaint, then he should submit it to the Education Administrator who would then look into its viability as a legitimate complaint. It was suggested by Cam Fentriss to make sure that any complaint was worded as specifically as possible.

 

 

10. General public comment

 

No public comment was offered.

 

 

11. Summary and review of meeting work products/action items, assignments, and next steps

 

The Chair issued no other work assignments.

 

 

Adjourn (Adjourned at 10:28 am.)

Motion: To adjourn

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second:  Tony Grippa

Approved Unanimously

 

Recommended Commission Actions

The Education POC considered and recommends the following:

 

The following new courses are recommended for approval:

 

Course: 2007 FBC Advanced Electrical Class

Provider: Electrical Council of Florida

Accreditor: JC Code and Construction Consultants, Inc.

BCIS Course Number: 410.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2007 Fla. Building Code Administration Advanced Code Training

Provider: Alabama Associated General Contractors

Accreditor: Bill Dumbaugh

BCIS Course Number: 397.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced 2007 FBC Roofing Checklist Construction

Provider: Advanced Benefits, Inc.

Accreditor: JC Code and Construction Consultants, Inc.

BCIS Course Number: 405.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced Fair Housing Act OR The Seven Deadly Sins of FHA

Provider: AIA Florida

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 413.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced Florida Building Code (Egress Flow)

Provider: Codeaccess

Accreditor: JDB Code Services, Inc.

BCIS Course Number: 408.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Florida’s Advanced Energy Code

Provider: FRSA – Fl. Rfg., Sheet Metal, Air Cond., Contractors Association

Accreditor: JC Code and Construction Consultants, Inc.

BCIS Course Number: 414.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Internet 2007 Building Code Residential With 2009 Supplements Advanced Course

Provider: Thomas A. Lee

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 415.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

 

OTHER ACTIONS

 

Motion: To request that the current language regarding course self affirmation be recommended to be approved by the full Commission.

Motion: Ken Gregory

Second: Jon Hamrick

Approved Unanimously

 

 

Note: This document is available in alternate formats upon request to the Department of Community Affairs, Codes and Standards, 255 Shumard Oak Blvd., Tallahassee, Fl. 32399, (850) 487-1824.