FLORIDA BUILDING COMMISSION

 

December 6, 7 and 8, 2010

 

Crowne Plaza Oceanfront
2605 Highway A1A N
Melbourne, Florida, 32903

(321-777-4100)

 

LEGAL REPORT

 

FIRST HEARING

 

DCA10-DEC-209 by Michael Murray of StormWatch, Inc

Question #. 1. Is 1613.1.9 intended to mitigate fatigue failure, “entering the plastic range”, of metal storm shutters and/or metal shutter supporting structures and components By limiting the deflection to 2” based on a length to deflection formula of L/30?

Answer:           Section 1613.1.9, Item (9), applies to all storm shutters regardless of the products’ materials or physical properties.

 

Question #. 2. Has it been determined that “Fabric Storm Panels” or fabric shutters have a “plastic range” or that they suffer from fatigue failure induced by deflections greater than 2” based on a length to deflection formula of L/30 or any other?

Answer:           Not possible.  Determination of specific product strength and material is subject to testing and evaluation as determined through the product approval process.

 

Question #. 3. 1613.1.9 Specifically and only refers to a minimum separation from the glass. Has it been determined that openings or areas that have no glass are subject to 1613.1.9?

Answer:           Section 1613.1.9, Item (9), is applicable to an opening regardless of whether it is a glazed opening or not.

 

Question #. 4. The language of 1613.1.9 specifically requires a storm shutter to be installed in such a manner that after maximum permissible deflection the shutter would have a separation from the glass within the precise range of 1-2” from the glass.

 

                        Question:  Will storm shutters be required to be installed to deflect into this narrow range of separation?

Answer:           Storm shutters must provide a minimum clear separation from the glass a minimum of 1 inch and the deflection limit of the shutter fabric must not exceed 2 inches.

Question:  Will storm shutters be permitted to be more than 2” from the glass after maximum deflection?

Answer:           “Yes” as long as the deflection limit of the product does not exceed 2 inches.

 

Question #. 5.  The relationship between L/30 and the 2” deflection limit is not directly indicated as a requirement by the language of 1613.1.9, but inferred from the language. Statements have been made in POC meetings that what is in the code is the rule and no interpretation as to intent of the rule can be allowed. Is it not the case that the relationship between the 2” deflection and L/30 is in itself an interpretation to clarify the intent of the rule, and if the rule can be interpreted to clarify intent to one end, it can be interpreted to clarify the intent to another end, such that 1613.1.9 is only intended to apply to metal shutters preventing excessive deflection which would lead to fatigue failure and being that fabric storm panels and some other shutter types that are designed to bend and do not suffer from deflection induced fatigue failure would not be subject to 1613.1.9 and be exempt from L/30?

Answer:           See answer to Question #1.

 

Question #. 6. Florida Statute 553.842 provides that manufactures have the option of receiving a state or local approval. If 1613.1.9 is intended to prevent deflection induced fatigue failure of metal components and the code section continues to be applied to products that are not subject to this type of failure how are manufacturers guaranteed a means other than a local approval to demonstrate compliance within the HVHZ?

Answer:           See answer to Question #1.

 

 

DCA10-DEC-216 by Geoff Mcleod of MESA Modular Systems, Inc.

Question 1:     Can the Commission approve our pad according to Mechanical Code Section 304.9 “other approved material?”

 

Answer 1:       NO, the term “approved” means “Acceptable to the code official or authority having jurisdiction”; the code official charged with the administration and enforcement of this code is the local building official or his/her authorized representative.

Question 2:     “Does our anchoring system fall within Rule 9N-3 “State Product Approval System?”

 

Answer 2:       NO, the product in question is not part of the building envelope and thus does not fall within the scope of Rule 9N-3.

 

DCA10-DEC-217 by Dwight Wilkes - Consultant for AAMA

 

Question:         Does the Florida Building Code allow the Manufacturer through engineering practice to submit additional information that will allow the substitution of anchors and installation into different substrates for a product submitted using the Certification Method and using AAMA 506-06.

Answer:           Yes, Section 1714.5.4.1 of the Florida Building Code, Building, allows substitute anchoring systems for different substrates using rational engineering analysis "accepted engineering practice". As long as the spacing has not been changed or altered from the original test.

DCA10-DEC-219 by David Karins, P.E. of Karins Engineering Group, Inc.

 

Question #. 1: Does the deflection and L/30 apply to positive pressures only or does L/30 apply to negative pressure as well?

Answer#. 1:     The deflection and L/30 apply to both positive and negative pressure.

 

Question #2:    Does the deflection criteria and L/30 apply to flexible materials such as shutters fabricated from screen materials unlike a rigid material such as plastic or aluminum?

Answer:           Yes, Section 1613.1.9, Item (9), applies to all storm shutters regardless of the products’ materials or physical properties.

 

Question #. 3: How is the L/30 deflection limit applied? Does it apply to overall system or to individual components?

Answer:           As per Section 1613.1, the L/30 deflection limit applies to both “system” and component.

 

Question #4:    Does the L/30 apply to two-way systems or one-way systems?

Answer:           The L/30 applies to both systems “one-way and two-way systems”.

 

Question #5:    If the clear separation of the glass is limited to maximum of 2 inch (negative pressure) and a minimum of 1 inch (positive pressure), does this mean the system can only deflect a maximum of ½ inch in each direction with the system being placed at 1-1/2 inch away from the glass?

Answer:           No, the clear separation must be a minimum of 1 inch and the deflection limit of the shutter “fabric” must not exceed 2 inches...

 

DCA10-DEC-220, DCA10-DEC-221, DCA10-DEC-222, DCA10-DEC-224, DCA10-DEC-225 by John H. Kampmann Jr., PE of MEA Engineers Inc.

 

Question #. 1: Does L/30 apply to fabric shutters? Fabrics do not have a loss of performance with deflections. It is my understanding that L/30 only applies to rigid materials.

Answer:          Yes, Section 1613.1.9, Item (9), applies to all storm shutters regardless of the products’ materials or physical properties.

 

Question #. 2: Under what circumstances would this product be able to get a FL Approval for HVHZ? Would this project be able to get an HVHZ approval for installations that limited its use for NON-GLAZING installations, such as on the exterior of non-glazed lanais, vents, doors - including garage doors, and any other non-glazing installations?

Answer:          Section 1613.1.9, Item (9), is applicable to an opening regardless of whether it is a glazed opening or not.

 

Question #. 3. Would this product be able to be considered as part of a panel wall system, providing impact protection while maintaining a separation between this product and the panel wall system?

Answer:          Not possible. The question is outside the scope of the product in question.

 

Question #. 4: Could this product be considered as a structural component for use in the HVHZ?

Answer:          Not possible. The question is outside the scope of the product in question.

 

Question #. 5: Can this product be installed in the HVHZ and protect glazing as long as the deflection of the fabric exceeds a separation to glazing of 1 inch?

Answer:          See answer to Question #1.

 

Question #. 6: Please clarify the language in 1613.1.9: "...shall provide a minimum clear separation from the glass of 1 inch (25mm) but not to exceed 2 inches (51mm) when the shutter or awning is at its maximum point of permissible deflection... " Specifically, what is the required separation to glass, including any limitations such as maximum deflection. The language in 1613.1.9 says that the separation to glass must be between 1 and 2 inches when at its maximum permissible deflection. The 2 inches is mentioned relative to clear separation, not relative to deflection as written. Some have said that there is a maximum 2 inch deflection limit, but I have not found that language in the code. If that is an interpretation of 1613.1.9, please explain it, the words do not support that definition to me.

Answer:          Not possible. No specific question provided.

Question #. 7: In 1613.1.9, is the maximum deflection L/30?

Answer:          Yes, if the opening is not a glazed opening.

 

Question #. 8: Is it also another fixed amount regardless of the span, such as 2 inches? If so, where in the code is this written?

Answer:          According to 1613.1.9, Maximum deflection is L/30 but not to exceed 2 inches if the opening is a glazed opening.