Florida Building Commission

July 2011 Education POC Meeting Minutes
 

Telephone Conference Call Number 1-888-808-6959, Access Code:  1967168
In Person Attendance: Room 250L, 2555 Shumard Oak Boulevard, Tallahassee, Florida


July 27, 2011

Time 10:00 a.m. ET

 

POC Members Present: Dick Browdy (Chair), Jon Hamrick, Herminio Gonzalez, Drew Smith

POC Member(s) Absent: Scott Mollan, Jeff Stone, Ken Gregory

 

Meeting Attendees Identified:

 

Ila Jones                              Michael Clark                                              

Larry Schneider                  Mo Madani

Cam Fentriss                      Alex Kobryn                                     

Rick Watson                        Dwight Wilkes

Jim Hammers                     Jim Shaw

 

 

Meeting was called to order at 10:07 a.m. ET, July 27, 2011

 

 

1. Review and approval of the July 2011 Agenda

 

Motion: To approve as submitted

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

 

2. Review and approval of June 2011 Minutes

 

Motion: To approve as submitted

Motion: Herminio Gonzalez

Second: Jon Hamrick

Approved Unanimously

 

 

3. Review pending accreditor applications for recommendation to the Commission

 

None Pending

 

 

 

 

4. Review pending advanced accredited courses for recommendation to the Commission

 

Course: 2007 Florida Accessibility Code

Provider: American Society of Landscape Architects Florida Chapter

Accreditor: Larry M. Schneider AIA

BCIS Course Number: 354.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2007 Florida Accessibility Code For Building Construction – Advanced

Provider: American Society of Landscape Architects Florida Chapter

Accreditor: Larry M. Schneider AIA

BCIS Course Number: 355.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced Residential Energy Code Compliance: Methods, Tools, and Verification

Provider: Florida Solar Energy Center

Accreditor: JC Code & Construction Consultants

BCIS Course Number: 473.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced Understanding of Florida Statute 553 part IV

Provider: Argus Industry Training and Education LLC

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 475.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

5. Review administratively approved updated courses for recommendation to Commission

 

The Chair asked for a Consent Motion for the administratively approved courses listed below.

 

Course: 2007 Florida Accessibility Code For Building Construction – Advanced Edition

Provider: American Society of Landscape Architects Florida Chapter

Accreditor: Larry M. Schneider AIA

BCIS Course Number: 356.1

 

Course: Landscape Irrigation and the Florida Advanced Building Code

Provider: Hoover Pumping Systems

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 45.1

 

Consent Motion: Courses approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

 

 

6. Review self affirmed updated courses for recommendation to the Commission

 

The Chair asked for a Consent Motion for the self-affirmed courses listed below.

 

Course: 2007 Advanced Code: Building Structural Summary

Provider: Contractor’s Institute

BCIS Course Number: 323.2

General Type of Change:  Date changes in materials

 

Course: 2007 Advanced Code: Building Structural Summary (Internet)

Provider: Contractor’s Institute

BCIS Course Number: 324.2

General Type of Change:  Date changes in materials

 

Course: Advanced Code CE 2009 Supplement to 2007 FBC

Provider: Contractor’s Exam School, Inc.

BCIS Course Number: 363.1

General Type of Change:  Date changes in materials

 

Consent Motion: Courses approved based on self-affirmation by the provider that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

 

7. Review/discuss the boilerplate language developed by the FBC general counsel regarding the intellectual property rights of course materials placed on the BCIS.

 

The Chair read the language into the record and asked Larry Schneider what he thought about the content, since it was meant to protect training providers---and Larry is a training provider.

 

Larry stated that he did evaluate the language and thought that it was fine---and would serve its intended purpose.

 

The chair asked if the Education POC needed to take further action.

 

Cam Fentriss stated that the POC did not need to take any further action. She also said that she included the language in the Educational Administrator’s report. She further recommended that all training providers should place similar language directly on their actual training materials for copyright protection.

 

No further action was required.

 

 

 

8.  Education Administrator activity report

 

A. Provided administrative support for FBC Education POC for June 1, 2011 meeting

B. Drafted minutes for FBC Education POC June 1, 2011 meeting

C. Prepared agenda for FBC Education POC meeting on July 27, 2011

D. Inquiries from the public May 19, 2011 to July 17, 2011 as follows:

12 inquiries: 5 telephone; 2 email; 5 telephone and email

Category of inquirers:

6 Provider 3 Engineer 1 College Professor

1 College Student 1 Consumer (swimming pool fencing)

Types of Inquiries:

3 Core course for engineers

5 Provider questions

2 Find/access new code

2 Pool fencing

E. Boilerplate language drafted by FBC general counsel:

 

"The Department and Commission provide access to documents on this site to facilitate compliance with their responsibilities under Chapter 119, Florida Statutes. These documents may be subject to claims of copyright protection and the access provided by this site is not intended to authorize, license or permit the use of the information contained therein for any particular purpose."

 

All providers should consult an attorney for verbiage to protect proprietary rights to include in any course materials.

 

F. As of November 10, 2010, we have 112 training providers and 12 accreditors

As of June 21, 2011, we have 334 approved courses (some are likely obsolete)

 

 

9. Identify future POC member discussion items

 

No discussion items/topics were recommended.

 

 

10. General public comment

 

Larry Schneider asked the Chair if accessibility courses would now be administratively approved, since the new accessibility code has been finalized. The Chair stated that yes; accessibility courses would be updated and treated as administrative approvals.

 

Cam Fentriss asked Larry Schneider to send her any revised language to be used as a reminder to training providers regarding the new accessibility code and having their accessibility courses updated.

 

 

11. Summary and review of meeting work products/action items, assignments, and next steps

 

No new assignments were handed out.

 

 

 

Adjourn (Adjourned at 10:25 am.)

Motion: To adjourn

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

 

Recommended Commission Actions

The Education POC considered and recommends the following:

 

 

The following new courses are recommended for approval:

 

Course: 2007 Florida Accessibility Code

Provider: American Society of Landscape Architects Florida Chapter

Accreditor: Larry M. Schneider AIA

BCIS Course Number: 354.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: 2007 Florida Accessibility Code For Building Construction – Advanced

Provider: American Society of Landscape Architects Florida Chapter

Accreditor: Larry M. Schneider AIA

BCIS Course Number: 355.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced Residential Energy Code Compliance: Methods, Tools, and Verification

Provider: Florida Solar Energy Center

Accreditor: JC Code & Construction Consultants

BCIS Course Number: 473.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

Course: Advanced Understanding of Florida Statute 553 part IV

Provider: Argus Industry Training and Education LLC

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 475.0

Motion: Course approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

 

 

The following administratively approved updated courses are recommended for approval:

 

Course: 2007 Florida Accessibility Code For Building Construction – Advanced Edition

Provider: American Society of Landscape Architects Florida Chapter

Accreditor: Larry M. Schneider AIA

BCIS Course Number: 356.1

 

Course: Landscape Irrigation and the Florida Advanced Building Code

Provider: Hoover Pumping Systems

Accreditor: BCIC LLC

BCIS Course Number: 45.1

 

Consent Motion: Courses approved based on the FBC accreditation process that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

 

 

The following self-affirmed courses are recommended for approval:

 

Course: 2007 Advanced Code: Building Structural Summary

Provider: Contractor’s Institute

BCIS Course Number: 323.2

General Type of Change:  Date changes in materials

 

Course: 2007 Advanced Code: Building Structural Summary (Internet)

Provider: Contractor’s Institute

BCIS Course Number: 324.2

General Type of Change:  Date changes in materials

 

Course: Advanced Code CE 2009 Supplement to 2007 FBC

Provider: Contractor’s Exam School, Inc.

BCIS Course Number: 363.1

General Type of Change:  Date changes in materials

 

Consent Motion: Courses approved based on self-affirmation by the provider that only verifies the accuracy of the Florida Building Code related content.

Motion: Jon Hamrick

Second: Herminio Gonzalez

Approved Unanimously

 

 

 

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