Florida Building Commission

Mechanical TAC

 

MINUTES

August 12, 2008

1:00 pm

By CONFERENCE CALL at

1-888-808-6959, Code 9221867

 

 

1.  Attendees:  Chaired by Steve Bassett.  Bob Andrews, Larry Banks, Joe Crum, Gary Griffin, Pete Quintela and Paul Stehle representing Dan Griffin.  Staff: Ann Stanton, Mo Madani and Betty Stevens.  Facilitated by Jeff Blair.

 

2.  The committee reviewed and approved the agenda.

 

3.  Reviewed and provided recommendations to the Commission on the request for declaratory statement DCA08-DEC-207 by Anthony C. Apfelbeck, Fire Marshal/Building Official, City of Altamonte Springs, as follows:

 

Question 1:  Does the rule apply only to new construction of a new building, or does it also apply to additions or alterations as defined in the FEBC?

 

Answer:  The rule applies to all buildings for which a permit for new construction is issued.  In this case, it would apply to construction of new buildings, additions and level 3 alterations as defined in the FBC-Existing Building.

 

Question 2:  If the rule applies to additions, does an addition require the complete existing structure to comply with installing CO detectors as prescribed in the rule? (hardwired and battery back up)

For example: If an attached garage or a screen enclosure is added to an existing home, are CO detectors required to be installing within the complete existing structure?

 

Answer:  YES, existing buildings must be brought into compliance if the addition meets the requirements of Rule 9B-3.0472, such as fossil fuel appliances or attached garage. If not, NO.

 

Question 3.  If the rule applies to all alterations, does it require the complete existing structure to comply with installing CO detectors as prescribed in the rule? (hardwired and battery back up)

a.                   Example #1: If a new gas furnace is installed in an existing home, whereas it was electric before, are CO detectors required to be installing within the complete existing structure?

b.                  Example #2: If any type of permit is issued on the existing structure are CO detectors required to be installing within the complete existing structure?

 

Answer:  YES, it applies to the complete existing structure if it is a level 3 alteration (as defined in the FBC-Existing Building), or if a fossil fuel appliance or an attached garage is added.

 

Question 4. If the answer is yes to the questions 2 or 3 above, must hardwired CO detectors be installed with a battery backup?

 

            Answer: 

For additions (Question 2), YES.

For Level 3 alterations (Question 3), YES.

 

Question 5.  Does the rule apply to repairs, as defined by the FEBC?

 

            Answer:  NO.

 

Question 6.  Does the rule apply to a change in occupancy, as defined by the FEBC?

 

Answer:  YES, if the change of occupancy meets the requirements or intent of Rule 9B-3.0472.

 

4. Reviewed and discussed proposed code changes to the Mechanical code and provided recommendation for consideration by the Commission.
Mod 2946: Proponent of comment deferred to Mod 3267.
Mod 3003: The TAC did not reach a consensus on whether it should defer to the Energy TAC for action.
Mod 3245: Section 508.1.1 was reserved in the 2004 code. FL specific. AS
Mod 3267: FL specific criteria in Sec. M1501.3 should be exception to M1502.6. AS

5.  New business:

Staff reported that additional glitches were found in the following sections of the Mechanical code. Correction of glitches was approved unanimously.

            403.1               Change to reference number.

            406                  Reserved in the 2004 code. Delete text and Reserve.

506.3.2.5         New IMC section in wrong place in FBC-Mechanical. Should be Section 506.3.3.1.

            603.8               Fix reference numbers.

            603.10             Fix reference numbers.

            1206.9.1          Flood hazard. Florida specific. Should be referenced to 301.13.

            1305.2.1          Flood hazard. Florida specific. Should be referenced to 301.13.

Steve Bassett reported that the definition of BOILER, HOT WATER SUPPLY in Sec. 202 of the FBC-Mechanical is wrong. The heat input should be changed to 400,000 Btus per hour and the water temperature should be changed to 210oF.  The TAC approved changing the definition unanimously.

 

A Mechanical TAC meeting will likely be held in October, 2008 to consider changes that may to needed to the carbon monoxide legislation for a report to the Legislature.

 

6.  Adjourned at 2:45 pm.