UNIVERSAL
BEDROOM DEFINITION WORKGROUP MEETING II
REPORT TO THE FLORIDA BUILDING COMMISSION
Meeting Design & Facilitation By
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Report By Jeff A. Blair
Florida Conflict Resolution
Consortium
Florida State University
jblair@fsu.edu
http:// consensus.fsu.edu
This document is available in
alternate formats upon request to Dept. of Community Affairs, Codes &
Standards, 2555 Shumard Oak Blvd., Tallahassee, FL 32399, (850) 487-1824.
FLORIDA
BUILDING COMMISSION
UNIVERSAL BEDROOM DEFINITION WORKGROUP REPORT
October 15, 2008
OVERVIEW
Chairman Rodriguez announced that the
Commission is convening a facilitated joint workgroup process with the Florida
Department of Health (DOH) to develop recommendations regarding requirements
for the sizing of septic systems. The
purpose of the Workgroup is to develop recommendations regarding an acceptable
definition of “Bedrooms” used for the sizing of septic systems. The definition
should work from the Florida Building Code (FBC) and Department of Health (DOH)
perspectives.
Raul L. Rodriguez, AIA,
Chair of the Florida Building Commission, has made the following appointments
to the Universal Bedroom Definition Workgroup. Members are charged with
representing their stakeholder group’s interests, and working with other
interest groups to develop consensus package(s) of recommendations for
submittal to the Commission.
Commission
Appointments
Dick Browdy
Matt Carlton
Joe Crum
Dale Greiner
Jim Goodloe
Jim Schock
Randy Vann
Health
Department Appointments
Ed Barranco
Antony Gaudio
Roxanne Groover
Robert Harper
Mark Lander
Jim Love
Jim Schivinski
The meeting started at
1:00 PM, and the following Workgroup members were present:
Dick Browdy, Matt Carlton, Dale Greiner,
Jim Goodloe, Dwight Wilkes for Jim Schock,
Randy Vann; Ed Barranco, Robert Harper,
Jim Love, and Ed Williams.
DCA Staff Present
Joe Bigelow, Rick Dixon,
Mo Madani, and Betty Stevens.
The meeting was
facilitated by Jeff Blair from the Florida Conflict Resolution Consortium at
Florida State University. Information at: http://consensus.fsu.edu/
Information on the
project, including agenda packets, meeting reports, and related documents may
be found in downloadable formats at the project webpage below:
http://consensus.fsu.edu/FBC/ubdw.html
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To Approve
Regular Procedural Topics (Agenda and Report)
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To Review
Workgroup’s Scope and Charge
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To Hear a
Report Regarding TRAP Feedback
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To Review
Options Regarding a Universal Bedroom Definition
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To Discuss
and Evaluate Level of Acceptability of Proposed Options
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To Consider
Public Comment
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To Identify
Needed Next Steps and Agenda Items for Next Meeting
Review of Universal Bedroom Definition Workgroup
Scope and Overview
Jeff
Blair explained that the purpose of the Workgroup is to develop recommendations
regarding
an acceptable methodology for sizing
septic systems. The Workgroup should review the strategy of using “Bedrooms”
for the sizing of septic systems, and evaluate an universal bedroom definition
that will work from the Florida Building
Code (FBC) and Department of Health (DOH) perspectives.
Overview
At the first meeting Workgroup
members were requested to propose and evaluate a range of options for
developing a universal bedroom definition for the sizing of septic systems and
evaluated three (3) options. The options are as follows:
Option 1:
Bedroom:
Minimum 70 sq ft, closet, means of escape and rescue to the outside, door, and
must be conditioned space (code requires heating for conditioned space).
3 members voted in support of this option in
concept.
Option 2:
Bedroom: Minimum 70 sq
ft, closet, means of escape and rescue to the outside, door,
must be conditioned
space, and the room is not a: hallway, bathroom, kitchen, living room, family
room, dining room, breakfast nook, pantry, laundry room, sunroom, recreation
room, media/video room, or exercise room (Note: the concept is to create a list
of exceptions and all other rooms would be classified as bedroom).
10 members voted in support of this option in
concept.
Option 3:
Use the Building Code requirements of a specific
occupant load for housing: 1 person per 200 sq ft, and at the plan review
process require 75 gallons/person/day for sizing the system. The concept is for
an occupant load calculation based on square footage.
3 members voted in support of this option in
concept.
Review
and Approval of the May 7, 2008 Facilitator’s Summary Report
The Workgroup voted
unanimously, 9 - 0 in favor, to approve the May 7, 2008 Facilitator’s
Report as presented.
Report
on Technical Review and Advisory Panel (TRAP) Input on Issue
Robert
Harper, Workgroup and TRAP member reported that the issue was discussed by TRAP
at their June 5, 2008 meeting, but the TRAP decided additional information was
needed from the DOH before they could provide feedback to the Commission’s
Workgroup. The issue was tabled to a future meeting.
Discussion, Identification and Evaluation in Turn
of Options Regarding a Universal Bedroom Definition
Ed Barranco
from the Department of Health (DOH), presented a new option proposed by the DOH
for the Workgroup’s consideration. The basic concept is to move away from the
bedroom definition strategy, and to use the census definition of “room” to
determine the calculation. The sizing calculation is based on the number of
rooms multiplied by 50 gallons per day (GPD) per room.
The Workgroup
reviewed the following DOH proposal for sizing septic systems:
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Use census
definition of rooms for calculating system sizes.
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All rooms that
meet the census definition of “Room” are counted as a room.
·
Use 70 square
feet as the minimum room size for consideration as a room.
·
Use a
conversion factor of 50 gallons per day/room for sizing septic system.
The complete
proposal is included as Attachment 2 of this report.
Additional
considerations:
·
The proposal
should be reviewed by DOH’s TRAP for feedback.
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DOH should
evaluate the formula’s factors to ensure they are accurate.
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DOH should
analyze additional floor plans to ensure the methodology works.
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The effects of
additions should be evaluated to ensure the formula still works.
Overview and Summary of Discussion
and Participant’s Questions and Comments:
·
Move away
from bedroom definition strategy.
·
Defining
bedrooms has always presented issues and problems.
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Need to
review 50gpd/room conversion factor using a broad range of sample houses.
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Is the 70
square feet threshold for defining “rooms” the correct number.
·
Need to
review 50 plans to ensure the calculation factors are correct: 70 sq. ft. and
50 gpd/room.
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DOH will
evaluate a broad range of plans and tweak conversion factors as appropriate.
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TRAP should
review proposal and provide feedback.
·
If this
proposal is recommended by TRAP, then DOH will initiate rulemaking to adopt
this new methodology.
·
I have
reviewed this proposal and find it is a simple, clear, and accurate method for
sizing septic systems.
·
Need to
ensure additions also work within this construct.
·
This strategy
also addresses unfinished spaces well, because sooner or later they will become
rooms and should be counted in the sizing.
·
This strategy
seems to work well for most situations and should be evaluated further by DOH
technical staff.
Workgroup Action:
Motion—The
Workgroup voted unanimously, 10 - 0 in favor, to recommend in concept the
following strategy for sizing septic systems:
Use census definition of rooms for calculating system sizes,
All rooms that meet the “Room” definition are counted as a
room,
Use 70 square feet as minimum room size, and
Use a conversion factor of 50 gallons per day/room for
sizing septic systems.
(Attachment 2—DOH Proposal)
Public Comment
Members of the
public were invited to provide the Workgroup with comments.
Next Steps
·
The proposal
will be submitted to the Department of Health’s (DOH) Technical Review and
Advisory Panel (TRAP) for evaluation and feedback.
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DOH should also
evaluate the 50gpd/room and 70 square foot criteria to ensure they are the best
numbers to use in the formula for calculating septic system sizing.
·
The Workgroup
will meet a final time once TRAP has evaluated the Workgroup’s consensus
recommendations regarding a strategy for method for the sizing of septic
systems.
Adjourn
The Workgroup
adjourned at 3:00 PM.
ATTACHMENT
1
MEETING EVALUATION RESULTS
October 15, 2008—Tampa, Florida
Average rank using a 0 to 10
scale, where 0 means totally disagree
and 10 means totally agree.
1. Please
assess the overall meeting.
9.69 The
background information was very useful.
9.79 The
agenda packet was very useful.
9.69 The
objectives for the meeting were stated at the outset.
9.75
Overall, the objectives of the meeting were fully achieved.
9.44
Report on TRAP Feedback.
9.56
Discussion and Evaluation of Options
Regarding a Universal Bedroom Definition.
9.64
Identification of Next Steps.
2. Please
tell us how well the Facilitator helped the participants engage in the meeting.
9.64 The members followed the direction of the
Facilitator.
9.69 The Facilitator made sure the concerns of all
members were heard.
9.07 The Facilitator helped us arrange our time well.
8.44 Participant input was documented accurately.
3. What
is your level of satisfaction with the meeting?
9.64 Overall, I am very satisfied with the meeting.
9.81 I was very satisfied with the services provided by
the Facilitator.
9.64 I am satisfied with the outcome of the meeting.
4. What
progress did you make?
9.81 I
know what the next steps following this meeting will be.
9.81 I
know who is responsible for the next steps.
5. What
did you like best about the meeting?
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Good Ideas-
Great consensus.
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It was short
6. How
could the meeting have been improved?
·
It could be
shorter
ATTACHMENT 2
DOH SEPTIC SYSTEM SIZING PROPOSAL